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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki |
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I have read many posts regarding issues with BMW's with the steptronic transmission where RPM's either: stutter; flutter; surge; hiccups; bounces; etc....
This seems to occur when cruising around 30-40 MPH and @ ~ 2,000 RPMs. It is ever so slight, you might miss it if you blink,m but a quick RPM drop, then returns. Does not appear to occur at higher speed/RPM combo, or at same RPM in Sport or Manual mode. Another associated symptom seems to be a slight delay when shifting into reverse. As it progresses you start to leak tranny fluid, so unless you have an extra car, time to resolve becomes an issue, so forced to pay to have resolved asap. I have a 2004 E60 545 with 39,000 miles that recently started experiencing this issue. Several trips to indy and BMW mechanics were unable to resolve at much time and expense. So I took to the internet. This website has been most informative. There have been many suggested fixes such as: bad gas; MAF (Mass Air Flow) sensor; 02 sensor; fly by wire; fuel filter; CCV; carbon buildup; tourque converter; spark plugs; VANOS; computer software updates; retrain the "learned transmission"; transmission control module; etc... Other suggested workarounds were to drive in the Sport or semi manual mode, however this only masks the issue into other RPM ranges. After reading many posts, it appears there seems to be a manufacturing defect with the ZF mechatronics plastic parts were micro cracks impair the functionality. There are no error codes, so BMW does not cover under warranty. There are no service bulletins directly. Related SIB's are: 24 08 06 and 24 03 09. Sort of a catch 22 here. BMW warranty won't cover the repair because there are no error codes, but BMW didn't program any error codes for this issue. Unfortunately repairing the mechatronics is a $3,000 - $4,000 job which occurs near or after warranty expiration. There are some stories of PUMA cases (the highest level of BMW tech support) and others of BMW goodwill warranties for parts and owner pays ~$1K labor, but these are diminishing in today's economy. There are many other's calling for a BMW recall, or class action lawsuit, but I didn't see any final formalization. Does anyone have any update? Has BMW accepted responsibilty to resolve? How many BMW's are impacted by this? Can you buy a new mechatronic, a rebult one, or best to replace components of your existing? Can this be done by an Indy? I read has to have the program on site, else can't drive without risking damage to transmission. BMW needs to come clean on this, else I'll never buy another BMW product again. I don't have a problem with issues, just have to own up to them to instill product quality and loyalty. I'm disappointed in BMW and will likey choose a different make in the future. |
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http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=654634 is what I did on mine, but I'm at 180K miles so no warranty
I saw a post once where someone found that if you floored it right when that blip happened it would get it to throw a transmission error but no clue if that will help You can buy a rebuilt mechatronics / valvebody unit (that comes from ZF ultimately) with oil pan for about $1500. If a mechanic couldn't change it out in 3 hours I would be finding a new mechanic. I pulled mine, changed solenoids, put it back in (1st time), spent a while getting the oil level right, put the plastic covers back on the bottom of the car, took a shower and played with the dog in about 5 hours total. And that was on the ground in my parents driveway. I'm surprised it's doing it at such low mileage though, that really sucks. I'm not sure how BMW's warranties work.. If your mechatronics seal suddenly sprung a leak and fried the whole transmission after you lost a lot of fluid, would they replace it under warranty? Last edited by schpenxel; 11-14-2012 at 06:32 PM. |
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