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Old 11-20-2012, 07:37 AM
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Yes. I don't know how to break it to my son because he is so enthralled with Season 1 (rightfully so) and Hulu Plus gives us all 4 seasons and I have no intention of suffering through the last 3 even though I never saw the last 2.

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I think I gave up at the same point. I didn't even know there were 4 seasons.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:42 AM
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Telebrands has always had successful direct response items and I thought their sales were still going strong?

I was just about to place an order for a Christmas gift for my wife. Do you think she would like the Royal Heirloom Ring™? It looks so much like the ring that Kate Middleton now wears that I can't believe they are able to sell it for only $19.90 plus S&H.

Maybe I'll buy several for investment pieces!
Telebrands has had some dark times like bankrupcy around 2001. Some less than encouraging grumblings have been heard throughout this year.

I am aware of too many appalling business practices which I will not spew in this thread.

I have stories about that ring too. Basically I had to secure an exact replica of the ring at 4pm on a Friday with the shoot by Anthony Sullivan in Florida the next morning. Talk about nearly impossible.
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I heard Walking Dead is the most appropriate for Bimmer drivers to watch.
Why yes, yes it is. And ATS drivers are catching up on 60 minutes.
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Why yes, yes it is. And ATS drivers are catching up on 60 minutes.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:30 AM
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why yes, yes it is. And ats drivers are catching up on 60 minutes.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:18 AM
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Why yes, yes it is. And ATS drivers are catching up on 60 minutes.
I never thought any Bimmer driver would ever want to mention 60 Minutes, especially with "335" in his username

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Old 11-21-2012, 09:55 AM
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you just got owned. Deal with it.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:13 AM
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Why yes, yes it is. And ATS drivers are catching up on 60 minutes.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:21 AM
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you just got owned. Deal with it.
Speaking about ownage...Skip to 7 min...OUCH!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=RHE85kHxRw8#!
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:25 AM
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Cool.
A bit sad actually.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:48 AM
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A bit sad actually.
Go cry about it.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:50 PM
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you just got owned. Deal with it.
You don't seem to have a clue what I was talking about.

As usual.
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:04 PM
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You don't seem to have a clue what I was talking about.

As usual.
You got owned, it happens. You need to get over it.
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:22 PM
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Speaking about ownage...Skip to 7 min...OUCH!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=RHE85kHxRw8#!
That dude is an absolute idiot!! I can't stand his reviews. He gets the MOST basic things wrong. (Not just in this video.) NOTHING he says holds an ounce of weight with me. Did you know BMWs are designed in Stuttgart and Mercs are designed in Munich? And to think, all these years I've thought it was just the opposite. I guess I'm just not an automotive "journalist".

I do believe he is the only person I've EVER heard say the Merc C Class is a better driver's car than a BMW 3 Series. Really?! He must have been smoking crack right before that review.
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Speaking about ownage...Skip to 7 min...OUCH!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=RHE85kHxRw8#!
This is exactly what I said after I test drove the ATS 3.6, I wished a car in this segment that has the 3 series' engine refinement, but the ATS's steering and chassis, which includes brakes. I just didn't think about the C350 too much.

You know a lot was said about how fast the F30 335i is, and people glow about the fact they were caught surprised the car was doing 80+ on the highway when they sought it was doing just 60.

At the first glance it sounded very good, but it also points out the F30 isolated the driver from the road more so than the previous gens. In fact back in the days the most bragging point about the Mercedes sports cars was that they could go 100 and felt like doing 70. That was many years ago, old talking points.

How things have come full circle.

BJ was right about BMW going after those seeking luxury and comfort. I must give him that.

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You know a lot was said about how fast the F30 335i is, and people glow about the fact they were caught surprised the car was doing 80+ on the highway when they sought it was doing just 60.

At the first glance it sounded very good, but it also points out the F30 isolated the driver from the road more so than the previous gens.
Load of hooey! The exact same thing was, and is, said of the E46 and the E90. Because the car is so planted to the road and feels so secure and well controlled. Exactly NOTHING to do with feeling isolated from the road, which is exactly what makes moving at high speed feel unsafe.

As I mentioned, that guy is an idiot. Agreeing with his assessments is not something to feel good about. And, again, I'm not referring just to this review. Every review I've seen of his is just stupid. He's a "journalist", yet he frequently can't put into words what it is he likes or dislikes about the cars he reviews; "there's just something about it.". Really?!
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That dude is an absolute idiot!! I can't stand his reviews. He gets the MOST basic things wrong. (Not just in this video.) NOTHING he says holds an ounce of weight with me. Did you know BMWs are designed in Stuttgart and Mercs are designed in Munich? And to think, all these years I've thought it was just the opposite. I guess I'm just not an automotive "journalist".

I do believe he is the only person I've EVER heard say the Merc C Class is a better driver's car than a BMW 3 Series. Really?! He must have been smoking crack right before that review.
In this particular review he is spot on. All other reviews shared his opinion, including C & D which is very pro BMW and pro 3 series. ATS is simply a better sport sedan.

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In this particular review he is spot on. All other reviews shared his opinion, including C & D which is very pro BMW and pro 3 series. ATS is simply a better sport sedan.
I've driven all three and I disagree.
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That dude is an absolute idiot!! I can't stand his reviews. He gets the MOST basic things wrong. (Not just in this video.) NOTHING he says holds an ounce of weight with me. Did you know BMWs are designed in Stuttgart and Mercs are designed in Munich? And to think, all these years I've thought it was just the opposite. I guess I'm just not an automotive "journalist".
The Stuttgart and Munich comment was referring to his assertion that MB and BMW copy each other's ideas shamelessly, in case you missed it.
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The Stuttgart and Munich comment was referring to his assertion that MB and BMW copy each other's ideas shamelessly, in case you missed it.
I didn't miss it. I also didn't miss that they left it in the video. I guess editing is just too much trouble.....unless you don't even realize you've made an error. Not the first time for this reviewer.
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In this particular review he is spot on. All other reviews shared his opinion, including C & D which is very pro BMW and pro 3 series. ATS is simply a better sport sedan.
Personally I will not call the ATS simply a better sport sedan. They both have enough pros and cons to declare one is better than the other. But I agree with him, the ATS 3.6 makes you wanting to keep driving, encourages you to push it at the corners more. It was difficult to describe, you just have to drive it, and drive it hard to feel it.
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Personally I will not call the ATS simply a better sport sedan. They both have enough pros and cons to declare one is better than the other. But I agree with him, the ATS 3.6 makes you wanting to keep driving, encourages you to push it at the corners more. It was difficult to describe, you just have to drive it, and drive it hard to feel it.
Have your ordered your ATS yet?

If not, stop trying to shove it down our throats. Move on.

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I didn't miss it. I also didn't miss that they left it in the video. I guess editing is just too much trouble.....unless you don't even realize you've made an error. Not the first time for this reviewer.
I don't think you gain much credibility by just calling him an idiot, and therefore he must be wrong, without telling us why you are correct when you say for example you reached the opposite conclusion about the handling of the cars.

Also it was not just his own view, notice he said "we think...". I think more than one MT reviewers did that comparison, and agreed on the verdict in principle, he was just the more enthusiastic of the group

And BTW, you did miss the point made by the previous poster. The guy intentionally switched the headquarters around to prove his point that the two German companies steal each other's infotainment designs.

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