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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 12-27-2013, 09:22 PM
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Total recall

Hva lifters replaced = no charge

tail lights = no charge

e-60 free service recalls for your bmw

i find more? Will post more
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:22 PM
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I'm taking my e60 in next week to get this recall for the rear bulb fixed. Are you saying that BMW does a full service inspection along with this for FREE? Like just to check brake pad wear, filters, oil, etc..?
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Old 01-02-2014, 07:23 AM
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Were you still under CPO warranty or anything? I've seen the SIB on the HVA but never a recall? Would love to get this fixed for free! I've just been dealing with the noise because it does eventually go away every time and from what I've read is not causing any harm. Thanks!
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Old 01-02-2014, 08:07 AM
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So I call a dealer to take my car in also to which I was infomred the car needed to stay over night but they cannot give me a loaner because I am out of Warranty. Also I was informed that there is a battery cable recall also.
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Old 01-29-2014, 02:04 PM
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Sorry Yaw! I've been away dealing with other issues. But yes! This is a RECALL! Shouldn't matter if you're in or not in warranty years. ITS A RECALL! Do not let the dealerships HUSTLE you out of the work. This RECALL was for the HVA LIFTERS WITHIN THE ENGINE NOT PUMPING COOL OIL THRU THE ENGINE ON COLD STARTS. So you may or may not hear the TIC TOC if you are garaged kept unlike mine. I heard it on some cold days. I called the dealership (FRIEND / SELLER of mine who works for BMW). And he told me they all make a tick tock noise. I came on here and found the RECALL LETTER for the HVA system. Down Loaded the paperwork and took it in and got it fixed! Just like you will with your tail light bulb holders.

Hope this helps. AND GOOD LUCK!
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Old 01-29-2014, 04:06 PM
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Sorry Yaw! I've been away dealing with other issues. But yes! This is a RECALL! Shouldn't matter if you're in or not in warranty years. ITS A RECALL! Do not let the dealerships HUSTLE you out of the work. This RECALL was for the HVA LIFTERS WITHIN THE ENGINE NOT PUMPING COOL OIL THRU THE ENGINE ON COLD STARTS. So you may or may not hear the TIC TOC if you are garaged kept unlike mine. I heard it on some cold days. I called the dealership (FRIEND / SELLER of mine who works for BMW). And he told me they all make a tick tock noise. I came on here and found the RECALL LETTER for the HVA system. Down Loaded the paperwork and took it in and got it fixed! Just like you will with your tail light bulb holders.

Hope this helps. AND GOOD LUCK!
Salt,

Do you have a copy of the recall letter for the HVA, or the location of a copy?

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Old 01-30-2014, 09:35 PM
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Old 01-31-2014, 12:09 PM
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I looked thru my paperwork banglenot. Apparently I was out smarted by the BMW Service REP and he kept it! I can't find it. But there was a conversation on here from a while back that talked about it. And the person that put the NOTICE on here I believe was from Austin TX. And I downloaded it from here from that earlier conversation and got it done... I'll see if I can find that link again.

NOTE: Recall for the battery cables is for the 3SERIES and not OURS.... end of note.
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Old 01-31-2014, 12:22 PM
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From my research on the internet, the noise may be an "Intermittent Hydraulic Valve Adjuster (HVA) Noise" which effects all E82, E83, E88, E85, E86, E60, E61, E70, E90, E91, E92 and E93 vehicles with N51, N52 or N52K engines produced approximately up to November 31st 2008. An occasional ticking or rattling noise from the camshaft hydraulic valve lifters (HVA) may occur during cold engine starts, due to frequent short-distance driving, or the noise may occur for an extended period of time even though the engine is at operating temperature. Improved parts were phased into production beginning on 10/1/2008 and fully implemented on November 31st 2008. The "fix" for this condition had been to hold the engine at a constant RPM around midrange for a few minutes. I believe this was to elminate entrapped air around the lifters. This method has since been suspended since it was only a temporary fix. The new repair may require replacement of the 12 exhaust camshaft hydraulic valve lifters. The SIB that this refers to is SI B 11 09 07. Your BMW tech should be able to shine more light on the subject. My 545 does the same thing and I will be mentioning this to my tech in the spring since it shoud be coverd under the CPO program.

I FOUND THIS MUCH JUST GOING BACK THRU EARLIER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE SUBJECT.

MOUSE OVER "FORUMS" UP ABOVE - ONCE OVER THAT, IT'LL DROP DOWN SEVERAL SERIES. 5 SERIES (not done yet!), THEN THE YEAR
OF YOUR BMW (MINE FALLS IN THE E60 2004-2010. ONCE THERE, FAST FORWARD TO PAGES 22 ON UP AND PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE TOPICS AND HELP ME FIND WHAT IT IS YOU ARE LOOKING FOR...
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Old 01-31-2014, 01:08 PM
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SI B 11 09 07

edit: sorry, didn't see that you did indeed post the SIB #. This is a very very common issue. Any BMW dealership should know about it

There are a few different levels of "fixes", going from trying to bleed the lifters, to replacing the lifters with redesigned ones, to the final "real" fix of a redesigned cylinder head. You can get new lifters pretty easily, but you have to be pretty annoying and have a bad case to get a new head

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Old 01-31-2014, 02:44 PM
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This is great info. Thanks OP for posting this. I just bought my 2009 528i w/CPO and having this information really helps.

I think this link has been posted before but I found my manufacture date using:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/select.do

In my case, 09/2008. So I'll need the bulb and the HVA done.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:52 PM
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I have seen this SIB in my research as well, but it requires a new vehicle or CPO warranty for the free fix A recall letter however shouldn't require either of those for a free fix, which is what I and probably many others are hoping for Without warranty I was quoted $1500-$1600 for the exhaust HVA replacement, ouch
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:29 PM
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So..I have an 08 528xi, just developed a bad engine tick yesterday morning. Did a little research etc, then took it to the local dealer between jobs (kind of in a hurry). The SA was pretty damn rude and just gave me a quote for $1,7xx something plus tax. (holy mother of pearl!) So I called BMW of NA, turns out there are two active recalls for battery cable and tail light. Was told to schedule a service appointment to have corrected and that the dealer should check the engine noise to verify if it is the standard n52 lifter tick issue. Called the dealer back, dealt with the same lady as when I went in....after mentioning that I had just got off the phone with BMW of NA now have a service appointment for Saturday to have recall issue taken care of, engine diagnosed, plus a full inspection, all free of charge well outside of warranty. The customer relations agent also advised that while there is not a full out recall on the HVA (exhaust valve lifters) that they do consider this on a case by case basis. Have the engine diagnosed and get back with them to hopefully get corrected at no charge. Hoping for the best on this, I will post more after the appointment on saturday depending on how coherent I am haha. I have surgery on Friday and no idea what they are going to try and put me on for pain mgmt after, so if you don't see a reply for a few days just be patient. I am pretty sure that this is going to be a free fix due to defective OEM parts causing the problem. BTW, mine was produced in 10/07 so well before they even started the phase in for new lifters/head. Wish me luck, love the car but hate the new noise =/. On a side note....are the 535xi's prone to this problem as well (e60's). Have been looking at trading for one recently.


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Old 04-03-2014, 08:28 AM
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GinjahNinja,

First! Let me say I hope you have/HAD/ a very successful surgery! FORGET THESE CARS... Hope you're okay first and foremost! Secondly I am glad to hear that you took steps to keep persuing the fix of your problem. You didn't just stop at the first NO. So like you,
I hope they take care of your BMW-Baby and give it a successful HVA surgery as well. These cars are awesome! But for the E60's that we drive, seems that BMW was experimenting with cheaper parts and technology. Now the fixes are seeming passed on to the
consumer's like you and me. NOT! Praying for you to recover! Then a little at the end of my prayer for your case to have a pleasant turnout for your car as well.
U TAKE CARE!
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Old 04-07-2014, 09:00 PM
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Hey, Thanks Saltman! Doing ok, surgery got rescheduled for Wednesday but I think it will go smoothly. BMW is still giving me a hard time about doing the repair, now waiting on an answer from the resolution specialists with bmw of na. Talked to them again today and was told they will have an answer in a few days...ugh. Using some social media to try to sway that decision a bit too ha.
Also, what year is yours and how many miles when you got them to do the repair at no cost. I tracked down the original dealership for my car and they emailed me the service records, which were surprisingly consistent from 07-October of 2013. Last service with original dealer was only 5000 miles ago, 4k of those are from me. I hope it's not this much of a battle for everything that goes wrong with these things.
Still searching for a recall letter btw, I think having the service history through 5k miles ago and arguing with the SA until they made an accurate diagnosis might help, but a recall letter would do it for sure I bet. Good luck to all on this and let me know on miles/year when you can Saltman. Thanks!


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Old 04-07-2014, 10:02 PM
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I just had , passenger seat sensor, battery cable all done under recall. I had some other things going on that needed major repairs as well. Thankful for a warranty
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Old 04-08-2014, 05:37 PM
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Nice! I think a warranty is definitely the way to go on my next purchase, looking into some other warranty options as a back up plan while waiting to hear back from bmw of NA. Some good news for all of us outside of warranty with the ticking lifters. YELLOW BOTTLE OF CD2. When I stopped by the indy shop today, they said to give this stuff a try, its only a few bucks and they are quite confident in its ability to free stuck lifters and such. Put a bottle in and drive, should clear up within 500 miles or so, change oil after 2000 miles. Going to go get a bottle tomorrow and put it in if I get a nay from BMW on a goodwill fix. It can't hurt anything and they use it on many of the older beemers with lifter ticks with much success. Still hoping for a permanent fix, but even if they say no, this should at least get me by until I have the funds for the real fix. Until next time all and good luck!


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