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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 02-08-2015, 06:22 AM
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E70 NBT Retrofit DIY Adventure

I just got myself an E70 4.8 (first ever UDM) and will be receiving it in around 2 weeks ! My E70 comes with the HUD, Tired CCC, PDC with no Reverse Camera. I gotten some quotes in my country here and there on NBT retrofit and man are they expensive... (I guess because there's not many choices from where I come from). Therefore I plan to DIY this amazing retrofit.

I really hope some of you Gurus here can help me out throughout this exciting DIY Adventure!

The only programming i Know of is C, C++ and C#. I have read on some forums that it is really easy to code and I really do hope its true !

As a start im not really sure what parts I need to do a full retrofit of:
-NBT with Navigation and Voice Control
-IDrive Sexy Touch Controller
-USB for Songs and Movies from USB or HDD
-AUX
-Reverse Camera with cool Dynamic Parking Lines
-And Hopefully to integrate NBT with the existing 6 CD Changer and HUD

Parts:
-NBT Head Unit - From F15
-NBT 8.8" Monitor
-Touch IDrive Controller
-USB/ AUX Port -84109237653
-USB Socket - 84109237656
-Rear Camera with handle
-Emulator - Seen Alot around any Recommendations ?
-Anymore Parts ?

Trims:
NBT Front Trim 8 Button - 65129270250
Radio Control Knob - 65129114289
Center Console Panel - 51456967464
IDrive Touch Controller Support - 51169155970
IDrive Touch Controller Trim - 51169169999

Cables:
-NBT Head Unit to NBT 8.8" Monitor - 61119185171
-Touch IDrive Controller to NBT Head Unit - ?
-USB/ AUX Cable to NBT Head Unit - 61119129360
-USB Adapter Cable -61129255716
-Power Cable - 61119185171
-Rear Camera to NBT - Video Cable
-Anymore Cables ?

Coding
-Laptop
-NCS Expert
-K+ DCAN USB Cable
-eNet Cable
-esys & psdzdata


Hope for some awsome input and help!
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:26 AM
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Nice plan.

Have you driven/inspected/tested the E70 yet? Do that first.
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Old 02-08-2015, 05:57 PM
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Have sent it for inspection at BMW garage. All is good. Only thing to worry about was the tires which was replaced ! Driven the car and the way it rides gave me goose bumps. Immediately fell in love with it. Surprisingly the ride is really comfortable for a 21" .... Bumps wasn't obvious at all.
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Old 02-08-2015, 05:59 PM
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Can't wait to migrate to NBT. Learning as much as I can
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Old 02-08-2015, 06:10 PM
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Hey I had been looking into this for a while but pretty sure Im going to get a S5 in the near future so decided against it. However, I did do some extensive research on it.

For one, the NBT will come with a new CD changer, its part of the control unit and why you need new trim for the control until(the 8 button one)

Im not sure how HUD will integrate but I don't think it should be an issue because there is a separate module for the HUD. There might be some coding involved in that.

You might need to work with some optical stuff and if you have to terminate any optical tracts make sure to do it at the MOST hub and not using optical terminators.

Bluetooth? I think there are additional wires to retain BT functionality although it is built into the NBT unit you still have to connect to microphone and the TCU module which should be located in the trunk. However, and I say this without knowing much about it, you can remove the TCU module and you won't need to wire the BT back to it but you will need to reroute all the wires from the TCU to the NBT unit.

So depending on how you purchase the unit it might come precoded(bimmerretrofit) for the vehicle but if you're buying used it won't so you have to address that and then use an emulator to activate Nav and Voice control. Bimmer retrofits has one available but there might be some less expensive options that do the same thing.

Sorry Im not more knowledgable on the coding aspect as I had only looked at buying it precoded. You could get it coded wirelessly but that costs about 300 or so plus you need certain cables for that.
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Old 02-09-2015, 04:23 AM
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Here is someone who has done it on a e90.
Should be a similar job: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=799458
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Old 02-09-2015, 06:10 AM
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thanks for the sharing. yes got motivated by his thread !
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Old 02-09-2015, 06:12 AM
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thats the bad boy
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Old 02-09-2015, 06:20 AM
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Willy,

Good point out on the 8 buttons trim. If an equivalent trim comes with the NBT package then I wont be getting it. As for HUD Navigation it seems to me that it will never work with NBT. that was told to me by one of the tech guys here who was kind enough to share. I dont why and wouldnt really understand if he'd try to explain. So yeah. 6 CD changer wouldnt work aswell.

Im therefore now contemplating between CIC route or NBT route. Any input guys ?!
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Old 02-09-2015, 06:53 AM
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Seems like your x5 isn't a LCI. At least that's what your rear lights are telling me.
I think you're better off with the CIC Retrofit IMHO: parts are cheaper and readily available (especially used), works with HUD and more people have experience with retro-fitting it.
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Old 02-09-2015, 06:56 AM
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yes thats thing that gets me thinking over and over and over again. CIC has everything working fine. NBT looks AWSOME and Refreshing and I always have this silly hope that one day HUD NAVI can be fully integrated with NBT
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Old 02-10-2015, 05:51 PM
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yes thats thing that gets me thinking over and over and over again. CIC has everything working fine. NBT looks AWSOME and Refreshing and I always have this silly hope that one day HUD NAVI can be fully integrated with NBT
This will almost certainly never happen. You can't even have the HUD connected with the NBT in place.
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:52 PM
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Nice ride, I was from Malaysia and I know even this pre LCI X5 cost an arm and leg in Malaysia. Congrats bro enjoy your ride.....memang cantik dan hebat sekali. I have one myself too never get tired of this beast even its the first year 4.8i. Make sure inspect all the seals and gaskets, these are 4.8i Achilles heel.
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