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E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 05-14-2014, 12:38 PM
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Roundel BMW emblem needs replacing in steering wheel center

The BMW roundel emblem in the center of my steering wheel is oddly discolored and faded ... plastic is fully intact, just the colors are smudged. Looks bad, especially if you have to stare at it while you're driving.

My SA says "should be covered under warranty ... but we have to REPLACE the entire airbag assembly" ... Say what?!?

The question I have: will this be reported on Carfax? It seems that some dealer stuff makes it on the carfax, and some doesn't. I don't like the idea of this being reported as "airbag replaced". I've requested to report it as "warranty repair".
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Old 05-14-2014, 01:32 PM
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Roundel emblem replacement in steering wheel center

Why would it be placed on carfax?? I doubt the dealer would be reporting that issue. The emblem on the wheel can't be something they can pop on and off as you don't want that emblem flying at you if the air bag deploys.


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Old 05-14-2014, 01:33 PM
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I just noticed the picture. That does look bad. It looks like it melting or something.


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Old 05-14-2014, 01:49 PM
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Why would it be placed on carfax?? I doubt the dealer would be reporting that issue ...
Because, in part, this is what a dealer agrees to with Carfax (Dealer = Customer):

"Customer authorizes the release to CARFAX of data, including VIN, date, mileage and, as applicable, service codes and repair descriptions from Customer's inventory, sales and/or service records ("Service Data"). Customer will provide Service Data to CARFAX via Customer's management system or data services vendor for continuous use by CARFAX in the VHS (Vehicle History Service) ..."

That's why.
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Old 05-14-2014, 01:57 PM
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I have what appears to be the exact issue in my 2011 X5 35d. I am the second owner and it's a CPO- any chance I'm covered?
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Old 05-14-2014, 02:05 PM
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I have what appears to be the exact issue in my 2011 X5 35d. I am the second owner and it's a CPO- any chance I'm covered?
If you are under CPO warranty, probably not, unfortunately. But read the CPO contract and then ask your SA. Sometime they're willing to look the other way and it gets covered on SA "discretionary customer good will funds" ... nothing to do with CPO.
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Old 05-14-2014, 04:14 PM
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I have the same problem with my recently purchased 2011 CPOed x5 5.0. Not quite as discolored as your's luckily, but I didn't notice it until after purchase unfortunately. I thought maybe prior owner over used the horn or drove with a palm resting on the emblem (which could lead to hand "degloving" if airbags deploy).

Saw some stickers on Amazon to cover it up, but that seems like a cheesy solution, so just living with it.


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Old 05-16-2014, 08:10 AM
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The BMW roundel emblem in the center of my steering wheel is oddly discolored and faded ... plastic is fully intact, just the colors are smudged. Looks bad, especially if you have to stare at it while you're driving.

My SA says "should be covered under warranty ... but we have to REPLACE the entire airbag assembly" ... Say what?!?

The question I have: will this be reported on Carfax? It seems that some dealer stuff makes it on the carfax, and some doesn't. I don't like the idea of this being reported as "airbag replaced". I've requested to report it as "warranty repair".
that seems weird that plastic is intact and colors are smudged. Any work done recently? Possible botch job cover up or just old? If colors weren't smudged, I would suggest some sort of cleaner. Can you just pop off the emblem and replace yourself? That will save you time and aggravation.
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:34 AM
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If you are under CPO warranty, probably not, unfortunately. But read the CPO contract and then ask your SA. Sometime they're willing to look the other way and it gets covered on SA "discretionary customer good will funds" ... nothing to do with CPO.
Good will funds? Great concept but this is New York- took my new X5 CPO in to the local dealer for a state inspection and the SA told me I needed a wheel alignment and power steering fluid flush. Car tracks straight as an arrow btw...

I'm just not feelin the love at this place.
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Old 07-25-2014, 02:31 PM
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Replacement airbag Roundel (kinda... )

Replacing the airbag's roundel, from what I've read everywhere, is generally not recommended.
I believe the plastic roundel has to flip-up to let the airbag deploy properly.
The logo backing is just foil, I believe. Which makes is susceptible to oxidation.

That all being said (ahem), I just got replacement roundels from my dealership using part numbers from pre-airbag vehicles.
For anyone interested:
32-33-1-117-279 - 45mm roundel, should match what we all have.
32-71-1-238-280 - 38mm top/face dimension, 41mm back
This is of mid-'14.

The roundels are perfectly flat on the back. The airbags plastic badge is concave.
So the old plastic face on the airbag's badge would need to be shaved, scraped,
sanded or melted smooth & flat before it would take the replacement.

Just beware: You might end up with a permanent round 2" dimple on your forehead after a collision.
But most aesthetically, the new badge will stick out much farther than the existing roundel.
Making this modification look like one.

Even if you do SOMEHOW to get the old roundel off (NOT RECOMMENDED), the new #279 45mm replacement has a very thick plastic top. Almost 2mm thick. Buy several to practice your sanding technique before replacement. Also the metal backing is exposed, making it, again, susceptible to oxidation. I would spray paint it something, use clear nail polish, anything to prevent the new one from looking like the old one again a few years from now.

Then let us all know how it goes...

Actually, the more I think about it, just put a sticker over it. Helluva lot safer.
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Old 07-25-2014, 03:27 PM
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Replacing the airbag's roundel, from what I've read everywhere, is generally not recommended.
I believe the plastic roundel has to flip-up to let the airbag deploy properly.
The logo backing is just foil, I believe. Which makes is susceptible to oxidation.

That all being said (ahem), I just got replacement roundels from my dealership using part numbers from pre-airbag vehicles.
For anyone interested:
32-33-1-117-279 - 45mm roundel, should match what we all have.
32-71-1-238-280 - 38mm top/face dimension, 41mm back
This is of mid-'14.

The roundels are perfectly flat on the back. The airbags plastic badge is concave.
So the old plastic face on the airbag's badge would need to be shaved, scraped,
sanded or melted smooth & flat before it would take the replacement.

Just beware: You might end up with a permanent round 2" dimple on your forehead after a collision.
But most aesthetically, the new badge will stick out much farther than the existing roundel.
Making this modification look like one.

Even if you do SOMEHOW to get the old roundel off (NOT RECOMMENDED), the new #279 45mm replacement has a very thick plastic top. Almost 2mm thick. Buy several to practice your sanding technique before replacement. Also the metal backing is exposed, making it, again, susceptible to oxidation. I would spray paint it something, use clear nail polish, anything to prevent the new one from looking like the old one again a few years from now.

Then let us all know how it goes...

Actually, the more I think about it, just put a sticker over it. Helluva lot safer.
Can't risk it ... this little plastic piece could end up being a lethal projectile if not done correctly.

Complete bag is being replaced next week under warranty. Will post pics.
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