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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki |
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Check Engine Soon-Faulty PCM?
I have a BMW x5 3.0; 2 different diagnosis: 1) bad coils and spark plugs, 2) #6 cynlinder misfire-compression and plugs good; intermittent loss of signal to #6 fuel injector. Faulty PCM. See dealer for computer and reprogramming. Help? Anybody seen this type of problem?
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I replaced all 6 spark plugs today. it ran pretty smooth, slight rough idle when stopped. I drove it about 7 miles. I went in the store; came out; drastic rough idle again. Drove home, barely. It barely accelerated, ran rough.
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- What to tell newbies who ask why their SES/CEL light is on but who don't have DTC scan codes or why they have a misfire or stumbling, hesitation, rough idle, etc., but who don't post codes from an OBD scanner with their question (1)
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Codes...
The codes are PO 1351, PO 1353, PO 0313. Any help you can provide is most appreciated. I have replaced all 6 spark plugs and 2 ignition coils (#5 & #6).
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P0313 is misfire with low fuel. P1351 is misfire cylinder #5 with fuel cut-off. P1353 is misfire cylinder #6 with fuel cut-off.
Where did you get the information that you have an intermittent signal to cylinder #6?
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Intermittent Signal to Cylinder #6
My mechanic and the dealer gave me this diagnosis. Today the coils for cylinder #5 and #6 were replaced. After a drive around the block, the CES light came back on. The mechanic checked the codes. They were the PO 0313, PO 1353, PO 1351 that I shared earlier...
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I don't see any indication of the coils being the problem so you may have replaced perfectly good coils. You can test them following procedures here:
- How to test a BMW ignition coil (1) (2) I had the exact codes, among others: - Does the order of the misfire OBDII DTCs diagnostic trouble codes actually matter (1)
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Very important to check:"P 0313" Potentially - low fuel pressure. Reasons - fuel pump, fuel filter. Secondarily to check P 1353, P 1351.
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Fuel pressure...???
Would the CES light come on if there was an issue with the fuel pump, fuel filter? I do notice that when I give the car gas, I don't have the rough idle. When the car sits at a stop light or in park, the idle gradually becomes rougher the longer it sits.
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Do not think, it is necessary to check...
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Check what?
It's not necessary to check WHAT?
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Understood the question correctly? If yes: fuel pressure.
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Fuel pressure...???
Got it! Any suggestions on what to check? Everybody I've been in communication with are stumped. Here's my original post:
I have a BMW x5 3.0; 2 different diagnosis: 1) bad coils and spark plugs, 2) #6 cynlinder misfire-compression and plugs good; intermittent loss of signal to #6 fuel injector. Faulty PCM. See dealer for computer and reprogramming. Help? Anybody seen this type of problem? I replaced all 6 spark plugs today. it ran pretty smooth, slight rough idle when stopped. I drove it about 7 miles. I went in the store; came out; drastic rough idle again. Drove home, barely. It barely accelerated, ran rough. The codes are PO 1351, PO 1353, PO 0313. Any help you can provide is most appreciated. I have replaced all 6 spark plugs and 2 ignition coils (#5 & #6). My mechanic and the dealer gave me this diagnosis. Today the coils for cylinder #5 and #6 were replaced. After a drive around the block, the CES light came back on. The mechanic checked the codes. They were the PO 0313, PO 1353, PO 1351 that I shared earlier... Help!
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Don't cry, i'm mechanic. The whole problem - my bad language.
Your mechanic may check fuel pressure? Pressure good - next step. Pressure low - found problem. P0313 Misfire Detected with Low Fuel.
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Yes, Polikarpov, an excellent idea to check fuel pressure.
The six has a Schrader valve in the fuel rail. Have the mechanic rig up a fuel pressure test gauge and tape it to the hood. Drive around and observe the pressure. It should stay at 50 psi+. If it drops when the symptoms appear, further fuel system diagnosis is in order. Maybe you need a better mechanic.
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edjack,
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Fuel pressure...???
Thanks, Guys! That's not something I've checked...
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your English is fine, we appreciate your contribution, spasiba!
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