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Old 12-01-2012, 09:34 AM
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2013 335is convertible pricing info

I'm about to start talking to dealers about this car for purchase or lease. I may also want to do ED.

I'm having a hard time locating invoice info for for US delivery or ED delivery.

Can someone direct me where to get it or send it to me? Or is there a way to calculate from MSRP?

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Old 12-03-2012, 02:41 PM
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Hi, I just placed my order for 2013 335is convertible today. I spent last week negotiating with several local dealers and a few not so local dealers. I am doing PCD, so I was not real concerned about buying from local dealers. As it turned out, I got the best deal from a dealer 90 miles south of Atlanta (Macon). Total of all discounts was $6500 (including 1500 holiday credit). Local Atlanta dealers could not touch the deal in Macon, one was close, most were way higher. Good luck!
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:03 AM
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Local Atlanta dealers could not touch the deal in Macon, one was close, most were way higher. Good luck!
Just curious; Did this include board sponsor Adrian at BMW South Atlanta? i.e. did the Macon dealer beat his pricing?
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:28 AM
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Just curious; Did this include board sponsor Adrian at BMW South Atlanta? i.e. did the Macon dealer beat his pricing?
FWIW, back when I bought my 2010 E93 (fall 2009), Athens BWM, and both United (where I bought it) and Global had better pricing than Adrian was able to get me.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:32 AM
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FWIW, back when I bought my 2010 E93 (fall 2009), Athens BWM, and both United (where I bought it) and Global had better pricing than Adrian was able to get me.
Good to know. Thanks.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:43 AM
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Just curious; Did this include board sponsor Adrian at BMW South Atlanta? i.e. did the Macon dealer beat his pricing?
I bought two new BMW from that dealership on Church St. until Adrian took over the EDs. He'll jerk you around bait and switching finishing with a rude email when you don't buy. Jim Tompkins at Roswell BMW is the best guy in town to work with and he knows the Euro Delivery process inside-out.
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I bought two new BMW from that dealership on Church St. until Adrian took over the EDs. He'll jerk you around bait and switching finishing with a rude email when you don't buy. Jim Tompkins at Roswell BMW is the best guy in town to work with and he knows the Euro Delivery process inside-out.

Well MP3, if anything like some of us, we jerk back.

When a vendor lies, do the bait & wait....appear genuinely interested and open a number of requests with him.

Ask him to look up this, or could he do that, things that can't be done right away and take some effort on his part. Naturally, and the end of your fishing line is a delicious sale, profitable and just about to happen!

Notch up the enthusiasm bit by bit....almost there!

In the end, you pull the drain plug from the tub. "Darn! I really wanted to do business with you, but another salesman beat your price!"

He'll want to know all about that....in the telling, let slip that the "other salesman" routed certain info your way....maybe in contradiction to what he was telling you....and was consistent and attentive....he answered your questions completely and right away.

Oh, the humanity! At the very end, express the things that irritated your most about the guy as things you really appreciated - be sure to mention them specifically. In parting, you want to express your personal feeling of friendship with the guy, but your business goes elsewhere.

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Old 12-04-2012, 07:45 AM
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Well MP3, if anything like some of us, we jerk back.

When a vendor lies, do the bait & wait....appear genuinely interested and open a number of requests with him.
He lost four new cars sales to me alone and loads more via referrals. I am considering the new Wagon and the sale won't go there either. Rudeness is not appreciated. Six new BMWs is a pile of cash over the years. Guess I was not buying a new Ferrari or Bentley so what should we expect?
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He lost four new cars sales to me alone and loads more via referrals. I am considering the new Wagon and the sale won't go there either. Rudeness is not appreciated. Six new BMWs is a pile of cash over the years. Guess I was not buying a new Ferrari or Bentley so what should we expect?

So! That is a pic of your salesman?
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:19 AM
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I bought two new BMW from that dealership on Church St. until Adrian took over the EDs. He'll jerk you around bait and switching finishing with a rude email when you don't buy. Jim Tompkins at Roswell BMW is the best guy in town to work with and he knows the Euro Delivery process inside-out.
The dealership on Church st. (Nalley) was great, they were very professional and their price was very good. United BMW in Roswell ended up being 3k more than BMW of Macon.

BMW of Macon: MSRP of $69,867, sale price of $63,401 plus tax, tag, $499 doc fee. This is not an in stock unit, but rather an ordered car for PCD.

United BMW: 3k more

Nalley BMW: $600 more (not a bad deal at all!)

Century BMW: unable to match Macon price

Tom Williams BMW: unable to come close!

I should also mention that I am not a current BMW owner, nor is anyone in my family a current BMW owner.

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Old 12-04-2012, 10:27 AM
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The dealership on Church st. (Nalley) was great, they were very professional and their price was very good. United BMW in Roswell ended up being 3k more than BMW of Macon.

BMW of Macon: MSRP of $69,867, sale price of $63,401 plus tax, tag, $499 doc fee. This is not an in stock unit, but rather an ordered car for PCD.

United BMW: 3k more

Nalley BMW: $600 more (not a bad deal at all!)

Century BMW: unable to match Macon price

Tom Williams BMW: unable to come close!

I should also mention that I am not a current BMW owner, nor is anyone in my family a current BMW owner.
Used to be Chris BMW, I keep forgetting the new name.

Sounds like a good deal. I've never paid a 'doc fee' though. $500 is insane for just paperwork but assuming the overall deal is good then that's ok. All dealers can do the same price unless it's near the end of the month they are a few extra units for making a bonus etc. Part of the sales process is to 'size-up' the customer and see what they will pay.
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I forgot this a non-ED car. Dealers have allocations. North Metro area dealers probably have enough 'bozo buyers' to sell their allocation of -verts at near MSRP. I doubt Macon sells many $70K cars.
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Used to be Chris BMW, I keep forgetting the new name.

Sounds like a good deal. I've never paid a 'doc fee' though. $500 is insane for just paperwork but assuming the overall deal is good then that's ok. All dealers can do the same price unless it's near the end of the month they are a few extra units for making a bonus etc. Part of the sales process is to 'size-up' the customer and see what they will pay.
Good call on Chris BMW, totally forgot! The deal was made last Friday, 11/30.
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:51 PM
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I forgot this a non-ED car. Dealers have allocations. North Metro area dealers probably have enough 'bozo buyers' to sell their allocation of -verts at near MSRP. I doubt Macon sells many $70K cars.
MP3 you are right on with both points!

I even told United (Roswell) that I would prefer to give them the business because I plan to service the car there, apparently that didn't matter to them.
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I bought two new BMW from that dealership on Church St. until Adrian took over the EDs. He'll jerk you around bait and switching finishing with a rude email when you don't buy. Jim Tompkins at Roswell BMW is the best guy in town to work with and he knows the Euro Delivery process inside-out.
Thanks as well. I'm confused on one point though, Church Street sounds like Nalley (used to be Chris BMW?) and I thought the forum Adrian was down at BMW South ATL. Must have moved or something. No matter. Hopefully it'll be a fair while before I'm needing to buy another one.

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MP3 you are right on with both points!

I even told United (Roswell) that I would prefer to give them the business because I plan to service the car there, apparently that didn't matter to them.
These days you get a free loaner even if the car was not bought from them. Their service dept is generally really busy so if you prefer a BMW loaner be sure to ask and prepare to wait for the appointment.
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Thanks as well. I'm confused on one point though, Church Street sounds like Nalley (used to be Chris BMW?) and I thought the forum Adrian was down at BMW South ATL. Must have moved or something. No matter. Hopefully it'll be a fair while before I'm needing to buy another one.
Maybe he moved; it's been several years. First year E90 is what we were looking for IIRC. Likely he matured a bit and moved elsewhere to start fresh - he was very young when we encountered him and probably didn't think about repeat business or how small this town is - many cars guys know each other and word soon spreads. Lots of people PM'd me with similar stories back then. Over the years I've bought twenty-seven vehicles and had some bad experiences; that's the only one no where near forgotten.
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I bought two new BMW from that dealership on Church St. until Adrian took over the EDs. He'll jerk you around bait and switching finishing with a rude email when you don't buy. Jim Tompkins at Roswell BMW is the best guy in town to work with and he knows the Euro Delivery process inside-out.
+1 for Jim. I bought my E93 from him as well, great guy to work with and would go to him first if I were to get another BMW.

For pricing, I went to everyone and got the lowest "out-the-door" price (United was not lowest), and then went back again for round 2 and told United I would order the car that day if they matched the lowest price - which they did (they actually did better than that in the end). I originally went with United Roswell as I was working near there at the time.

E46 - who is your SA @ United Roswell? I have not been overly impressed with any of them thus far, and need to pick a "regular" SA.
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+1 for Jim. I bought my E93 from him as well, great guy to work with and would go to him first if I were to get another BMW.

E46 - who is your SA @ United Roswell? I have not been overly impressed with any of them thus far, and need to pick a "regular" SA.
Honestly I think they are all overworked. I am having a frequent but intermittent low battery issue and will probably fix it myself rather then faff around with more visits to the dealership. I don't really blame the SAs as it's a tough job. Robert Magnus was my temp SA once and I really liked his attitude, but he might be new and not yet burned out by demanding customers
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