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E63 / E64 6 Series (2004 - 2010)
The E63/E64 BMW 6 Series builds on BMW's sporty heritage with aggressive lines and an incredible motor to back the design up. Available in coupe and convertible trims with a standard 4.8 liter engine producing 360 horsepower and 360 lb-ft of torque, the 6-series is a popular choice that exceeds expectations.

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Old 12-04-2009, 03:32 PM
bigroosevelt bigroosevelt is offline
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Broken front subframe on my 650i

Dealer says an impact must have caused break on the drivers side of the front subframe / sub-frame on my 650i. I disagree, I haven't hit or rolled over anything that should cause this damage.

Dealer isn't willing to cover cost of the repair even though car is still under warranty.

I know the 3 series has had problems with the rear subframe defects. Has anyone experienced subframe problems on the 6 series??

Dealer says subframe could be welded by non-BMW body and frame shop for a cheap fix. Is this really a safe and viable option?

Otherwise BMW will charge over $3000 to replace ($800 parts, $2160 labor). This obviously sucks!!

After speaking with the service manager today, he requested a representative from BMW come out to view the car and determine whether or not it should be covered under the warranty. Service manager doubts they will cover the costs of the replacement.
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Old 12-08-2009, 04:55 PM
bigroosevelt bigroosevelt is offline
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Just spoke with a popular local repair shop. Apparently this is a common problem with the 6 Series.

He says he's seen the exact same break on 7 to 8 other cars.
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:29 AM
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Can you post some pics? not sure what kind of damage you are talking abt
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:44 PM
bigroosevelt bigroosevelt is offline
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Got a call from the dealership's service manager yesterday. Apparently BMW North America's rep came out and said that BMW will not cover the repair.

Picked car up today. Service Rep again recommended finding someone to weld the the part.

Found one shop willing to replace the part for $1600-$1700.
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Old 12-10-2009, 05:05 PM
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I guess BMWNA needs another action lawsuit to get them fix just like the E46 rear sub-frame then.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:00 AM
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Wow, tht seems like a big damage...so you are saying it just happened from normal wear?
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Old 12-27-2009, 12:47 PM
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hey i am having the exact same problem with my rear sub-frame. a week ago we were hit with a snow blizzard and i took the car out and literally 5 mins after i received a malfunctioning 4x4 and dsc displayed on the screen. i then slipped going 5mph onto a curb and the rear passengers side tire bent. nothing happened to the car physically, so i then contacted roadside ass. the next day and they took the car in to bmw of manhattan. 2 days later after promising me my car or a loaner they contacted me (a day before christmas eve) and said this is an insurance issue now and they can not and will not do anything about it. they are claiming to me that the damage was done and then the malfunctioning come onto the screen. i am very annoyed because they are trying to d*ck me and i do not want to go through my insurance because i have geico and they will take forever and probably kid me out. anyone have any suggestions ?
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Old 06-14-2016, 04:08 PM
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same problem

I have the exact same problem... didn't hit anything, just crossed a normal parking lot entry gutter and pop. Quoted 3k as well from an independent shop. Not a cheap fix.
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Old 06-18-2016, 01:18 PM
Izzys2001Z3 Izzys2001Z3 is offline
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Not that this helps you any, but why the hell do so many BMWs have subframe problems!?! It's ridiculous...

I have a Z3, and anytime I see a post like this, wonder why I ever left the bulletproof Japanese engineering.

BMW the ultimate designed to last lease period machine.

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Old 06-23-2016, 02:32 PM
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I have the exact same problem... didn't hit anything, just crossed a normal parking lot entry gutter and pop. Quoted 3k as well from an independent shop. Not a cheap fix.



Thasts an easy fix guys and its not the sub frame thats broken . alls that needs to be done is make up a new bracket and weld it . Get an aluminum piece fab up an exact copy of the original and weld it . I have done both sides on my 545 and i have no issues and i run her hard in the canyons . Im actually doing a 550 that broke the bracket clean off . i can post pics o the repair i did on mine ,,, and the 550 when I get it done . Im also going to do a little enforincing by welding support gusset on the back sides .. i will come back and post finish pictures on this 550 for those who are interested .

If its just the weld that cracks clean off , it can just be rewelded . But if the bracket breaks in half like yours , making up a new one is easy to do .. If your interested pm me and I can hook you up and save you big cash. if its not driveable we can pic it up and bring it to my buddies shop ...
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:13 PM
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Here is HF's thread about it with some good pics - http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=745813

I moved the thread to our 6 Series forum.

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Old 06-24-2016, 06:45 AM
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I had the same problem on my 07 650i. I purchased it from a dealership and when the knocking and rattling became an issue I had it checked out. Unfortunately the vehicle was no longer under warranty and cost me around 4,500 to fix.
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Old 06-24-2016, 09:20 AM
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I currently have the same exact problem on my 5 series. Looking for someone to fix it actually
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Old 06-25-2016, 06:11 AM
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I had similar problem w my 650 on one side
I found a mobile welder that came to my house and welded it in my garage
Took him 20 minutes
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Old 06-25-2016, 08:04 AM
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I had similar problem w my 650 on one side
I found a mobile welder that came to my house and welded it in my garage
Took him 20 minutes

How much did you spend
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Old 06-25-2016, 08:11 AM
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I paid him $300 but he also welded some other frame repair I had,
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:42 PM
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wow, that's crazy stuff! No wonder it's broken, weak aluminum that BMW seems to love making everything out of. I'd personally get things like that welded and reinforced. Now watch, it will happen to me when I get back on the road lol

Seriously, BMW should have fixed the OP's ride under warranty. That just blows, thanks BMW!
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