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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 12-11-2012, 05:14 PM
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Ok so here is the situation and hopefully someone can guide me in the right direction or shed a little light my way. I just bought a 2004 545i as my first BMW since i got a little too impatient trying to find the exact 535i i want. I got the car for a killer deal but simply cause the dash is inoperable and the bumper is damaged. The car will not start and as me being new to this type of vehicle i was wondering if the dash somehow controls more than just the odds and ends of the electrical system. Simply put, does the dash not coming on keep this car from cranking or is it something more expensive
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:52 PM
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I would invest in a Bavarian tech cable... your possibilities are endless.. you need to present codes. With out codes your only guessing.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:16 PM
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Ok thanks goes the info. Is is pretty much the same scenario with flooded out BMW's since just about every one I run across says the dash is inoperable so they can not test the vehicle. I'm not looking for the cheap escape by any means but just wish I was more knowledgeable as to what all the dash cluster prohibits you from starting the vehicle
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:32 PM
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Ok so here is the situation and hopefully someone can guide me in the right direction or shed a little light my way. I just bought a 2004 545i as my first BMW since i got a little too impatient trying to find the exact 535i i want. I got the car for a killer deal but simply cause the dash is inoperable and the bumper is damaged. The car will not start and as me being new to this type of vehicle i was wondering if the dash somehow controls more than just the odds and ends of the electrical system. Simply put, does the dash not coming on keep this car from cranking or is it something more expensive
Did the car ever start since you bought it or was it like that (not starting) at the time of purchase? You state the front bumper is damaged. Usually when these cars get into frontal accidents, the car shuts down and will not start for safety reasons.
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:21 AM
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Yes the car was like that when I purchased it. I was thinking that it was a simple electronics issue and a few days in the body shop but now not so much lol. If in fact it was this, how would I get this safety feature to shut off after I got the front repaired?
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:37 AM
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Find out which module controls this.This is a great forums but the guys on the 7 side seem to have dug into their cars more.Hint.Also don't know if I can mention this but 5series.net has a wealth of knowledge also.Sorry if that against the rules.
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:46 AM
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Thanks I appreciate all the advice and hope that I can get this thing at least alive in the dash! Also quick question since it has me curious, I noticed all flood damaged BMW's have a non working dash which makes it to where you can not start the car. Maybe these are two of the same problems just different scenarios?
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:49 AM
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Maybe the same issue ,you got me curious and found a video on you tube of someone with an e60 and the ole water in the trunk problem.I know if these modules get wet you can have all sorts of problems.The modules under the spare tire foam.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:10 AM
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Hmm so it pretty much all ties back to the modules. Seems all the modules are linked in to be a safety mechanism. Guess that's why ppl don't buy flood damaged vehicles lmao
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:21 AM
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I would try unhooking just the modules in the trunk and see if it will come to life.Start or try to start that is.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:45 AM
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If you have no power, did you check the battery safety terminal that disconnects in accidents? Grab an old E60 brochure from BMW's website or the web, and near the back it gives a brief description of this feature.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:20 AM
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No i haven't tried to locate the battery safe terminal but definitely will do some research on my model to see where it is located & hopefully thats it.
@ dolfan13, this car wasn't flooded and the impact was on the front right smashing the headlight and bumper so i think the trunk module should be ok but maybe there is others like it in the front?
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:34 PM
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Open the battery compartment, check the battery disconnect feature, its right there at the batttery positive terminal covered with red plastic the cable comes from the left side from under the trunk matt... if it has disconnected do to an accident, u can see if it is disconnected it just hangs out. its right there, just plug it back in..( u will have to replace it )then the car should start. u just have to push it back into the positive terminal.
i had to do that once,, cause i did a battery change and didnt tighten the battery tight enough and the terminal got hot and melted the red plastic cover,and activated the disconect safety feature while i was on the freeway doen 120 mph at 4;00 am ...after i pulled over and turned off the car.. i tried to start the car and it would not start.. so when looking at teh battery i noticed the cable was disconnected,,, i plugged it back in ... and ,,,, bingo bango the car started !!.. the disconnect cable runs all the way to the starter and cuts off power to the starter in an accident... hope that helps....
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:48 PM
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Well I sold the car and got almost all that I paid for it, looks like I have to keep my eyes peeled for a 2010 535i white with sport package now lol thanks for all the help and advice guys.
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:48 PM
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I hope you learned a valuable lesson from all of this. Never buy a car that doesn't start....
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:45 PM
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i hope you learned a valuable lesson from all of this. never buy a car that doesn't start....
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:30 PM
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I would have liked to see what the results were of reconnecting the safety terminal!
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:03 PM
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Me too.. woulda been worth a try
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:07 AM
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Certainly that small check *could* have been worth thousands!
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