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Old 08-25-2015, 02:59 PM
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big differences between 328xi, 330xi and 335xi?

i have a grand prix right now but i want to sell it.

My dad taught me how to drive in his 2003 535i M-sport. so ive been in love with BMWs ever since.

im 18 but right now im looking at the 3series xi because im from michigan and our winters are crazy. my price range right now is up to 13k , and how many miles is too many? 80k is the most common.

so any info or advice you ca give me would be great thanks!
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:27 PM
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you're 18

you don't have much cash to maintain cars

so buy 328XI ans stay with with cars with low mileage

335XI is awesome but will be expensive to run

330XI is the older version of 328XI
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:29 PM
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I would guess that the 328xi and 335xi are E9X cars, meaning one generation back.

The 330xi is two generations back

I think, though I'm not 100% sure that the engines in the 328 and 330 are a pretty similar 3 liter straight six, but I know little about the E series cars. The 335 will have the twin turbo straight six.
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:44 PM
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you're 18

you don't have much cash to maintain cars

so buy 328XI ans stay with with cars with low mileage

335XI is awesome but will be expensive to run

330XI is the older version of 328XI
yeag but i hear the 330 has more power than the 328?
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:50 PM
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The 330i was only available in the first year of the E90 series, 2006. It was a step up from the base model 325i, but still using a naturally aspirated I6, the N52. There is also a Super Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle (SULEV) model of this engine called the N51, which is less desirable. In 2007, the 325i became the 328i, and the 330i was replaced with the N54 twin-turbo I6 335i. In 2009, the E90 (sedan) received a cosmetic overhaul known as a Life Cycle Impulse (LCI), improving aesthetics all around, adding LED tail lights and turn signals, and replacing the antiquated CCC iDrive with the newer CIC iDrive (a much needed improvement). In 2010, the M-Sport version of the E90 became available, which further added cosmetic enhancements but with no change in the performance. In 2011, the 335i's N54 was replaced with a single twin-scroll turbo I6 called the N55, but otherwise remained the same. 2011 was the last model year of the E90. This timeline is altered a little bit for the coupe, which I feel is the better-looking of the two cars until after the LCI facelift.

For your budget, you will NOT find a good example of a 335i. The N54 is a high-strung motor that needs care and feeding to keep it maintained and running well. The N52 is much more forgiving, and much less likely to cost you $$$ in repairs. Like most cars, the likelihood of failure increases with age and miles, and for sub-13k you aren't going to find ANY low mileage examples. Personally, I'd shy away from any Pre-LCI 335i unless you had several thousand set aside for major repairs, since at a bare minimum you should plan on replacing the high pressure fuel pump, coolant pump, and performing a replacement of plugs, coils, fluids, and walnut blasting.

I'd strongly encourage you to spend the $150 or so and get a Pre-Purchase Inspection (PPI) on any car you look at, so you can get a feel of what to expect in terms of maintenance. Single-owner or two-owner cars would be ideal, more than that and you likely have a problem car that people have been offloading. A detailed service history with paper records would be good, but the PPI should tell you if anything was missed. Expect the car to have ~80-100k. The higher mileage isn't a big deal for the N52, just be aware that maintenance items like fluids/brake pads and rotors/tires are probably going to need replacement in the near future.

In your price range in the Michigan area, I found a few examples under $14,000 that look decent, at a glance:

First is a 2009 328xi. Black on black, looks clean, 100k miles, no iDrive. The VIN isn't listed so it's hard to see what options it has, but it looks like it is missing the Sport Package (sport seats being the big thing we are after here) and the Lighting Package (seems to have regular halogens rather than the much improved bi-xenon HIDs).

https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/ctd/5165267951.html

Second is a 2007 328xi coupe in Chicago (not sure where in Michigan you are). This has most options and looks to be well taken care of.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/5145273624.html

Also in Chicago is a 2009 328xi sedan, just like the first one, except with CIC iDrive, which is pretty nice.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5153298506.html

Here is a nice 2007 328xi coupe, with the sport package. Nice looking wheels too, but mileage is not listed.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/ctd/5145645280.html

Good luck with your search.
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yeag but i hear the 330 has more power than the 328?
328i have 160KW

330i have 190KW

same engine different engine software mapping

330i avail in 2005/06

and E90 cars made in 2005/06 suffer lots of electronic issues
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:53 PM
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06 330 e9x is still and e9x

06 330 e9x is still and e9x and probably the best of the non turbo ed BMW 3 series.
There is a big 330 thread here.

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Old 08-26-2015, 06:53 AM
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I'll let you know for sure in March, after my 1st winter, but consider a RWD and just get a 2nd set of wheels with snow tires, which most living in MI should have anyway.

It can't be any worse than my 1900lb 1991 toyota tercel in the snow that I drove in high school. I managed just fine on crappy AS tires. No ABS, traction control, stability control, 4 speed manual.
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Old 08-27-2015, 12:43 PM
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Other than the fact that my transmission failed and I've since had to get it rebuilt, I've purchased my first BMW 330XI in Virginia, right outside of DC. It's the alpine white and is fully loaded except for idrive and comfort access. I bought it for $14,000 and has 53k miles. One owner as well.
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Old 08-27-2015, 01:46 PM
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LMAO those cars are in pounds...good luck getting them shipped to the US.
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Old 08-27-2015, 11:04 PM
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LMAO those cars are in pounds...good luck getting them shipped to the US.

They look local to me... What are you looking at?
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Old 08-28-2015, 11:48 AM
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Buy a Wrangler

Ya, because Wranglers... well Chrysler products... even current are the gold standard for vehicle quality and reliability.

Even seen how consumer reports rates them?
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Never owned one eh? They are reliable, have no roof or doors, 4WD for Michigan winters, and won't ruin $300 rim and $300 tire on a single pothole, and most importantly it is a chick magnet that is not an extension of an 18yr olds manhood. Plus they are in top 3 of resale which an 18yr old should consider along with insurance cost.

Unless you get one as a graduation gift, I see no reason an 18yr old should be driving a BMW he/she most likely can't afford. They have plenty of time left to screw up their finances in life. Now buying a 1990's and working at a garage as a JOB is another topic.
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Old 08-28-2015, 01:25 PM
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you're 18

you don't have much cash to maintain cars

so buy 328XI ans stay with with cars with low mileage

335XI is awesome but will be expensive to run

330XI is the older version of 328XI
330 is more powerful. it was "removed" to make more space between the 328 and the 335.
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328i have 160KW

330i have 190KW

same engine different engine software mapping

330i avail in 2005/06

and E90 cars made in 2005/06 suffer lots of electronic issues
it's not just software mapping, the intake is different - check out DISA.
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Old 08-28-2015, 01:57 PM
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... and they can't stop, can't turn, roll over easy, rough ride, noisy ride, crappy mileage, slow.... you might long term not want to pick up chicks that like you because of what you drive.

I just go off of Consumers reports surveys. The results are dismal and that's an understatement. I think the old Ford Bronco was worse, but not by much.
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Old 08-28-2015, 02:10 PM
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The pound sign beside the price. Meaning its NOT in US dollars.
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Old 08-28-2015, 05:36 PM
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The pound sign beside the price. Meaning its NOT in US dollars.

Maybe a setting on your end...? They are local to him, in the US and listed in US dollars with the links he provided. Super weird if you're seeing something different.
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Old 08-28-2015, 05:41 PM
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... and they can't stop, can't turn, roll over easy, rough ride, noisy ride, crappy mileage, slow.... you might long term not want to pick up chicks that like you because of what you drive.

I just go off of Consumers reports surveys. The results are dismal and that's an understatement. I think the old Ford Bronco was worse, but not by much.
Driving a newer JK would refute everything you say except for how consumer reports feels, and what kind of chicks you eventually want in your life. As previously stated the resale on them would put it way out of the OP's grasp and pretty obviously not what he's looking for anyway.
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Never owned one eh? They are reliable, have no roof or doors, 4WD for Michigan winters, and won't ruin $300 rim and $300 tire on a single pothole, and most importantly it is a chick magnet that is not an extension of an 18yr olds manhood. Plus they are in top 3 of resale which an 18yr old should consider along with insurance cost.

Unless you get one as a graduation gift, I see no reason an 18yr old should be driving a BMW he/she most likely can't afford. They have plenty of time left to screw up their finances in life. Now buying a 1990's and working at a garage as a JOB is another topic.
a used 2007 wrangler in excellent condition has a KBB of over $14k...
for winter driving, I'd rather have an xi with snows than a wrangler, and I've owned both.
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Old 08-29-2015, 02:45 PM
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these cars are no more than 100 miles from me.. why would i get them "shipped to the US" youre tripping
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Old 08-29-2015, 02:50 PM
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Im not going to drive a car I dont like. i used to want a wrangler until i test drove it. and i actually can afford a BMW. thats why i made an account to ask BMW enthusiast what car is the best to get. the car not its going to be 170 for 3 years which is not alot at all..
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Old 08-29-2015, 02:52 PM
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and can you guys please top commenting on my financial status. money is not a problem luckily for me. I just want to pick the right car
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and can you guys please top commenting on my financial status. money is not a problem luckily for me. I just want to pick the right car
People on these forums will have a hard time trying to tell you that you:
A: should drive a crappy car until you can pay cash
B: can't afford the maintenance because BMW
C: idk, something along the lines of A and B


Anyways, if you can find a good x-drive, I'd say go for it. I had one (a 2007 530xi), and when combined with snow tires, it was absolutely excellent in the snow.
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