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Old 08-07-2015, 06:20 AM
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Flashing KOMBI

There is a thread on the other forum mentioning that BMW has updated the M-mode HUD on F8x cars, addressing the poor visibility of the tachometer (which was a frequent complaint among F8x owners). I am therefore planning to flash KOMBI with the latest software.

This will be the first time I flash an ECU, so I wanted to confirm the procedure.

I found the PDF guide zkiifreak posted here: Flashing ECU's with E-sys [GUIDE] and it seems clear enough.

Is there anything else I should be aware of? Should I be able to flash just KOMBI or are there other ECU's that need to be flashed at the same time? Finally, how long should the process take? (I have a battery charger, but I do not think it has the 50-70AMP capacity mentioned by zkiifreak in his guide)

Edit: The following images show the original and updated M-HUDs. The issue with the original one is that the monochromatic grey tachometer is hard to see against the background of grey asphalt.
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Old 08-07-2015, 02:43 PM
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The referenced Flashing Guide covers all you need to know, including determination of ECU Flash Dependencies. Kombi should only take about 5 - 10 minutes to flash. In lieu of charger, you can always jump car to another car with running motor.
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Thanks, Shawn. If it is only 5-10 minutes, it should be enough to make sure that the battery is fully charged before starting and leave the charger connected.

I saw the section in the Guide regarding the dependencies and read your original post. If I understand correctly, anything listed as a PreRequisite for KOMBI in the TAL Editor should be flashed at the same time. Do I also need to check if any of the PreRequisite ECUs in turn have other PreRequisites or can I stop with whatever is specifically listed as a PreRequisite for KOMBI?
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Thanks, Shawn. If it is only 5-10 minutes, it should be enough to make sure that the battery is fully charged before starting and leave the charger connected.

I saw the section in the Guide regarding the dependencies and read your original post. If I understand correctly, anything listed as a PreRequisite for KOMBI in the TAL Editor should be flashed at the same time. Do I also need to check if any of the PreRequisite ECUs in turn have other PreRequisites or can I stop with whatever is specifically listed as a PreRequisite for KOMBI?
Must check the PreRequisites for PreRequisites too.
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OK, got it.
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I calculated the TAL:
- KOMBI has FEM_GW and HU_NBT as prerequisites
- FEM_GW has TCB as prerequisite
- HU_NBT has FEM_GW as prerequisite
- TCB has no prerequisites.

So I need to flash KOMBI, FEM_GW, HU_NBT and TCB.

I have one more question. The Guide states that the connection needs to be via gateway URL or the flashing of ZGW (which I assume to be the equivalent of FEM_GW) will fail. The Guide has the following picture showing how to determine the correct URL:



However, in my case there is no URL shown in the "Connection via VIN" field following DIAGADR_10. How should I determine the gateway URL?
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Picture is from newer E-Sys 3.26.1, which shows IP Address in Connection via VIN,

You can use E-Sys Transmitter as follows:

Select "External Application"
Double-click "Transmitter"
Select ReadIPConfig
Click Connect
Click Send

Gateway IP Address will be first one shown, not second one, as follows:

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Picture is from newer E-Sys 3.26.1, which shows IP Address in Connection via VIN,

You can use E-Sys Transmitter as follows:

Select "External Application"
Double-click "Transmitter"
Select ReadIPConfig
Click Connect
Click Send

Gateway IP Address will be first one shown, not second one, as follows:

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Thanks, Shawn, I got the IP address. I will try the actual flashing tomorrow.
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Thanks, Shawn, I got the IP address. I will try the actual flashing tomorrow.
Wow, you guys are good! I am few steps behind you, learning the basics ... I have to read more of Shawn's posts to really understand things. Gotta re-partition my bootcamp to allow for more space for the full psd's. The voltage on my battery as read by the OBC was switching between 13.3 and 13.7 after 15mn drive. Not sure what to make of it. I know flashing requires almost full battery so putting the car on a charger is a must even if it's 5-10mn. I like to be in the safe side. Good luck again!
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I am trying to be very cautious about this and gain as much as possible from other people's experiences. Based on a few threads in this forum, the tricky step is the flashing of the central gateway module (ZGW/FEM_GW), which can lead to putting the car in Transport Mode. Some people have reported no issues flashing ZGW with ENET and connection via VIN, some people have only had success with ENET and connection via gateway URL and some people recommend flashing the central gateway separately before anything else and using ICOM. However, everything I could find is with F10/F11 cars.

Has anybody (Shawn?) flashed the central gateway on a F3x/F8x?

Is ENET via gateway URL the recommended connection for these cars and is it best to flash FEM_GW together with everything else (letting E-Sys sort out priorities) or to flash FEM_GW first?
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I have only flashed ZGW in F10, and I used ENET Cable and Connection via VIN without any problems.

Personally, and I know this goes against the Guide, but I would just flash Kombi by itself using Connection via VIN. Worst case it is fails, and then you an try via Gateway URL. After flash, if Kombi is not working as expected, then I would go back and flash NBT and ZGW,
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I have only flashed ZGW in F10, and I used ENET Cable and Connection via VIN without any problems.

Personally, and I know this goes against the Guide, but I would just flash Kombi by itself using Connection via VIN. Worst case it is fails, and then you an try via Gateway URL. After flash, if Kombi is not working as expected, then I would go back and flash NBT and ZGW,
Thanks, Shawn. If the flashing of KOMBI fails, should it leave KOMBI in a usable state (i.e., with the current software)?
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Thanks, Shawn. If the flashing of KOMBI fails, should it leave KOMBI in a usable state (i.e., with the current software)?
It should. I have not had issues with it before.
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It should. I have not had issues with it before.
OK, I am going to try this now.
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OK, I am going to try this now.
Ok, good luck.
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I am not sure why, but the update stops with the following VCM-Update error:

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I tried twice. I connected with ENET via VIN and I picked the correct (F020, not F20_DIRECT) target.
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I am not sure why, but the update stops with the following VCM-Update error:

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I tried twice. I connected with ENET via VIN and I picked the correct (F020, not F20_DIRECT) target.
Check "Read VIN out of FA" and hit "Read VIN" and try again.
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Check "Read VIN out of FA" and hit "Read VIN" and try again.
I did check "Read VIN out of FA" and hit "Read VIN". After doing so, the VIN appears in the "Enter VIN" field and the corresponding checkbox is marked, but I did not enter the VIN manually.
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I did check "Read VIN out of FA" and hit "Read VIN". After doing so, the VIN appears in the "Enter VIN" field and the corresponding checkbox is marked, but I did not enter the VIN manually.
Yes, but try it again.

If that does not work, then use manual VIN.
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Check "Read VIN out of FA" and hit "Read VIN" and try again.
It was mentioned in zkiifreak' thread that it is not necessary to read VIN, so maybe it is ? Shawn, is there a release notes for the newer psd'or any psd for that matter? Usually a firmware is upgraded to tackle specific issues or upgrade certain features, I'd like to know what I am flashing my car with... Thanks.
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It was mentioned in zkiifreak' thread that it is not necessary to read VIN, so maybe it is ? Shawn, is there a release notes for the newer psd'or any psd for that matter? Usually a firmware is upgraded to tackle specific issues or upgrade certain features, I'd like to know what I am flashing my car with... Thanks.
It is necessary. I always read VIN out of FA.

There are no firmware specific release notes.
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Yes, but try it again.

If that does not work, then use manual VIN.
I tried that again and I also tried entering the VIN manually. Unfortunately, same error message.
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I tried that again and I also tried entering the VIN manually. Unfortunately, same error message.
Are you using E-Sys Launcher?
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OK, I am going to try this now.
Best of luck, hats off to you! BTW, why did you flash with 56.2 ? i think i saw a post where you asked for it, is it because it is the latest? the I-Level that was mentioned for the improved HUD corresponded to 56.1. I wish I can help you, woke up an hour ago and continuing reading all the threads referenced by zkiifreak's guide.
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Are you using E-Sys Launcher?
Yes, version 2.1.2.63. The car series is set correctly (F082).
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