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X1 E84 (2011 - 2015)
First generation BMW X1 availbe as a X1 28i with either sDrive (RWD) or xDrive (AWD) or the US exclusive I6 N55 powered X1 35i xDrive.

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Old 08-17-2014, 09:41 AM
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Halogen to HID angel eyes retro fit

Hi, looking to do a retro fit from halogen to Hid in a 2012 E84 xdrive28i

someone tried those?? http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-2014-Ye...item4d22890f46

seems easy but I want opinions b4 i order..

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Old 08-21-2014, 07:58 AM
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I ordered a set....

will see if its really plug and play :\
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:03 AM
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which bulbs are you using

hello, which bulbs are you planning on using in the low beam projector?
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Old 08-21-2014, 12:02 PM
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Old 08-21-2014, 02:23 PM
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in the Lo beam i got xenon 5000k, form seller...

got all parts from : http://sunnylive.en.alibaba.com/prod...4_year_DB.html

including HID and ballast for lo beam
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Old 08-21-2014, 03:21 PM
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I am questioning the HID bulbs in Halogen lamps

I have been looking into the HID kits as well, and I see that there are lots of options. Some research says it's a bad idea and actually a downgrade because our halogen equipped cars don't have HID projectors. It appears that they blind oncoming traffic and don't project further than our halogen system. I did put HID bulbs in my fogs, BMS, and I like the look. Here is the reply I got from Daniel Stern lighting. I may take him up on his 65w bulbs. I want the best possible visibility at night because I drive in the dark mountains late at night ... but I also like the looks of the Xenons and don't want to pay for the retro fit kit: It's hard to tell what he wrote on my email, because the font color on this post is the same, but you'll figure it out. He has lots of good reviews.



Ben Schulte wrote:
Sir,

I have a 2013 Bmw X1, E84 with standard halogen lights.

Any of the blue-glass "extra white" bulbs are an absolute nonstarter as
far as seeing better is concerned. Sylvania Silverstar/Ultra, PIAA, Hoen,
BlueVision, CrystalVision, TruView, Nokya, Polarg, etc. -- all the same.
They produce _less_ light than ordinary bulbs and have a very short life due to the light blocked by the blue glass. All it does is change the beam color, which doesn't help anything (except arbitrary appearance fashion/style). So,
we'll start our comparison with standard bulbs.

*Osram* Silverstar (not Sylvania -- the Osram is a European-market product), Narva Rangepower+50, and Philips VisionPlus are all
"Plus+50" H7 bulbs. Philips Xtreme Power and Osram Night Breaker are both
"Plus+80"/"Plus+90" bulbs. They are, as a class, the best 55w H7s you can
buy. But, Osram offers an even better option with higher
output and longer life. Here is the comparison (figures at 13.2 volts):

Standard H7:
55w, 1500 lumens, 500 hours

H7 "Plus+50" or "Plus+60":
55w, 1580 lumens, 225 hours

H7 "Plus+80", "Plus+90", or "Plus+100":
55w, 1620 lumens, 200 hours

H7 rallye 65w:
65w, 2100 lumens, 500 hours. This is the obvious pick of the bunch. They are $22.79/ea here.


The "obvious choice" bulb here is made by two companies in Germany (Osram and Flösser). It's an H9 burner on an H7 base. The "burner" is the glass capsule and filament assembly. The H9 is a 65-watt, 2100-lumen bulb. The H7 is a 55-watt, 1410-lumen bulb. The filament geometry is identical (size, shape, placement, etc.). The extra ten-watt power is of no negative consequence as far as heat or power draw except in truly marginal installations, and yours isn't such a one; the only other factor that needs to be considered is glare, in case of lamps with sloppy optics. Your lamps have well-focused optics that handle the extra light well, without producing unsafe or illegal levels of glare. Lifespan is a little but not much shorter than that of a standard 55w H7 bulb (itself not a very long-life design). This bulb puts out _considerably_ more light over a much longer lifespan than any of the high-performance (or phony/hyped "high performance") 55w H7s.

For quite a few years I've sold the Osram version of this bulb. I am presently supplying the Flösser version; there were some quality issues with the last batch of Osrams I received, and while the explanation I've received is plausible, I'm waiting for any affected Osram bulbs to clear out of the pipeline.

Please be advised the Flosser bulbs are boxed and labelled differently than the Osram ones. They are built to exactly the same specification (H9 burner on H7 base, 65w at 12.0v, 2100 lumens at 13.2v, made in Germany) but they will arrive labelled Flosser 80w rather than Osram 65w. This is not an actual power difference, it is a test voltage difference. The Flosser factory power-rates their bulbs at 13.5v rather than 12.0v (both test voltages are catered for in the bulb specifications). For any/all filament bulbs, the wattage rises exponentially to the power 1.6 with voltage increase. So a bulb rated 65w at 12.0v will be rated 78.5w (printed as 80w) at 13.5v. It's not two different bulbs, just two different test protocols. I have personally confirmed this on my test bench -- ten samples of Osram "65w" and ten samples of Flösser "80w" all test out at between 63.8 and 65.4 watts at a constant 13.2 volts.

"HID kits" in halogen-bulb headlamps or fog/auxiliary lamps (any kit, any lamp, any vehicle no matter whether it's a car, truck, motorcycle, etc.) do not work safely or effectively, which is why they are illegal. See http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html . Same goes for "LED conversion" bulb kits.


also considering a DRL kit that fits just below the fog
lights in the mesh panel.

What's the trouble with the DRLs already on the vehicle?
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:51 PM
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the hid kits i ordered have auto levelling to not blind on coming traffic and to give maximum visibility for the driver, same as factory ones.

they also have an device called : can bus decoding error free kit, so no computer error codes.

my question was, did someone tried theses kits b4 I order, no one replied so i decided to do the Guinea pig....
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Old 08-22-2014, 01:31 PM
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SEffs,

Okay, those do look interesting!! How much were they with bulbs?
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Old 08-23-2014, 03:08 PM
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1000$ cad, plus customs...
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Old 08-24-2014, 04:14 PM
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Yes at that price you have no balast, light and can bus decoding error free device included for the lo beam, only halogen in hi beam.
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:12 PM
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ok , I have been battling whit these lights and the seller for a long time now... stay away of them, and if you order from China get proof of their return policy first!!!!!!
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they came w no levelling device, no bulbs in high beam when i paid for them, and hi beam and llo beam bulbs were inverted and non compatible for a swap, hi beams are on day time ... its a mess and they are not help full, not 100 honest as they say they sent all parts.... what a mess... but not as much as the GPS I ordered on Alibaba, thats an other story.....
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I was going to order one set from Alibaba

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SEffs, since it has been almost 6 months since your last post, would you mind giving us an update? I really appreciate you taking this on without having read any prior reviews. I'm curious to see if your troubles have possibly worked themselves out.

You mention that the high beams are on during the day in the new housings. Taking that comment into consideration, I did notice that on my standard halogen housings, the high beam bulb does in fact turn on in a low light setting when I turn my daytime running lights on. That would naturally carry into the projector housings as well unless you have your car coded to turn them off.

If you have a moment and don't mind sharing your insight, I have a few questions:

1. Do you still have the lights mounted in your X1, or have you since removed them?

2. Are your Corona Rings on when you turn your day time running lights on? Or do they only turn on when you turn the actual head lights on?

3. What is the overall quality of the materials used on the aftermarket lights?

4. Did the ballast they sent you mount in a specific location on the headlight like the OEM style, or are they a more generic ballast that has to mount elsewhere in the engine bay. (ie double sided tape, zip ties, etc)

5. Do you experience any flickering or error messages on your dash regarding aftermarket xenons, or did the can bus error eliminator work well?


I have done a great deal of research on the different options regarding the halogen to xenon retrofit and I truly think that, if the quality is good, going with aftermarket housings may be the easiest option. I would first check to see if the high beams could be coded to "off" in the daytime running light setting so that just the corona rings are on. I'm guessing that the corona rings replace the standard 5 watt wedge style bulb that is located in the high beam section of the OEM halogen housing.

Again, I really appreciate your insight.


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they came w no levelling device, no bulbs in high beam when i paid for them, and hi beam and llo beam bulbs were inverted and non compatible for a swap, hi beams are on day time ... its a mess and they are not help full, not 100 honest as they say they sent all parts.... what a mess... but not as much as the GPS I ordered on Alibaba, thats an other story.....

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Anyone thought about just buying an "oem" set of xenon projects and just wire it up with an hid kit minus the leveling device? I've seen a few on fleabay from Lithuania or Latvia lol.
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Allow me to give my subjective opinion....

The HID/Xeon lights are nice.
But, I do really think factory installed headlights are always better than anything aftermarket.

I've seen all kinds of vehicles over the last year driving around with aftermarket "angel eyes" and it just looks weird to me. I like the natural look of the vehicle whether it be xeon or halogen.

If I had halogens and wanted better light output, I would just buy better/different bulbs.

I have xeons in my X1, and have halogens in my truck.
I wish I had xeons in my truck, but I wouldn't pay $5 bucks to put after market headlights in.
I would pay $80 bucks to put better bulbs in and be happy with the OEM headlight unit.
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I'm doing a full hid xenon headlight replacement right now on my 2014 x1 e84 n20 xline using valeo full headlights only problem i'm running into is the screws to install the ballast onto the housing plus if i need to cap it or not $579.00 from bmw and they didn't come with screws to install it lol help

valeo headlights
hid xenon 6000k bulbs
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plug and play they tell me once I get the screws

can anyone help me find out torex screws please
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find the screws here is the pics part numbers I'm useing

its taking me four hours to drop the bumper to just test so far this is me list

1 valeo oem led to xenon hid
2 6000k bulb with cambus h11 buld x2
3 amber led turn signal with cambus error free coding
4 ballest 35 watt 1300v ds1 ds2 hid ecu

so far $500 us x2

also now need to spend four to five hours removing the bumper to test fix and hope they plug and play like valeo is telling me lol if not its testing coding with bmw at the cost of 90 an hour to run down code here are pic h7 h7 are halgon led xenon d1s is the replacement unit hoping for the best any replys let me know please
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I'm thinking of changing the angel eyes in my 135i coupe. I'm not a fan of the yellowish oem lights. Has anyone found a bright white light that will fit and that can run on the original wiring?
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I'm thinking of changing the angel eyes in my 135i coupe. I'm not a fan of the yellowish oem lights. Has anyone found a bright white light that will fit and that can run on the original wiring?
What kind of bulb is the OEM for your halos?
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What kind of bulb is the OEM for your halos?
Not sure...I'd insert a photo but my images are too large for this forum.

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Not sure...I'd insert a photo but my images are too large for this forum.
It should be a H8 bulb (Check RealOEM for your exact part number), if you want cheaper but good quality bulbs that are kind of whitish go with Philips Whitevision (http://www.powerbulbs.com/ca/product...vision-h8-twin) or you could go LED (high end - similar to this - http://www.burgertuning.com/BMW_LED_...160_7000K.html) or on Amazon for low end LED (for $60-$70).
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