F10 6WA retrofit KOMBI

Originally Posted by mateforrest

Solved.

After all night, this morning everything was ok.

Ok. Good deal.

So, are you ordering an R270 and the 3M SOIC SOP 8 WAY Test Clips?

What did the seller come back with on the EEPROM question?

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

Ok. Good deal.

So, are you ordering an R270 and the 3M SOIC SOP 8 WAY Test Clips?

What did the seller come back with on the EEPROM question?

I sent you an email with the information.

can F20 116i(professional CD w/o MOST, kombi basis) retrofit the 6WA simply? someone experienced told me that is impossible

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

Yes, my advice is that if you can get a 6WA Instrument Cluster cheap, do it. If you have to pay full price, go with 6WB.

Based on what I know about BimmerTech's 6WB Retrofit, which I am pretty sure the same also applies to going from the Basic Instrument Cluster to 6WA:

* It would need some coding (Presumably 6WA in VO, and VO Code KOMBI and HU_CIC - If Pre 03/2011 build, the Production Date would need to be changed) - E-Sys and ENET Cable is all that is needed.
* If you car currently does not have Eco PRO or Sport Modes, those displays will not appear
* The mileage will be identical to the your original unit
* You can swap units and the units will always show the correct mileage
* You need to swap the units before you go to your dealer for a service that requires a software update
* It is a 5 min job to change Instrument Clusters



As for the Entertainment List, Incoming and Outgoing Calls, Recent Call List, and Voice Recognition, if you have 6WA KOMBI with 47.x or higher firmware on it, you should get those features in your HUD after coding them.

NOTE: This assumes a Brand New never used KOMBI. A used KOMBI will have original car's VIN programmed in it, and I do not know how to change it, so this will be a problem and the mileage will not update.

Originally Posted by tankren

can F20 116i(professional CD w/o MOST, kombi basis) retrofit the 6WA simply? someone experienced told me that is impossible

Why is this not possible if you can change EEPROM VIN in donor KOMBI?

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

Why is this not possible if you can change EEPROM VIN in donor KOMBI?

he said that the CAN-BUS was not compatible

Originally Posted by tankren

he said that the CAN-BUS was not compatible

Oh..that may very well be...I don't know on that though.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

Oh..that may very well be...I don't know on that though.

Originally Posted by tankren

from Jiangsu You can send the KOMBI to me and i can help you reprogram I'm in Shanghai...

Originally Posted by hamfei

from Jiangsu You can send the KOMBI to me and i can help you reprogram I'm in Shanghai...

nonghao~
my car is BMW 116i urban line with basis instrument cluster, someday I asked larryzhou(maybe you know his name) whether my car can retrofit the 6WA(directly), he said NO because the cable is different. Is that true? thx
I do not need the 609 but I'm really interested in the extended kombi, if you can solve my doubt, much appreciate

Originally Posted by hamfei

You need some basic knowledge on E-SYS and KOMBI...Let me explain...

Different than the other modules, KOMBI has a EEPROM to store the Mileage and VIN information. The CPU does not allow any modification to the EEPROM from external. This means that you cannot code this EEPROM by using any diag tools connected through OBD. This mechanism is to protect the mileage information to avoid manipulation.

What we are going to do is to crack this procedure. By using a R270 programmer, you will be able to read/write the information to the EEPROM. Usually, you need to take the chip off, put it onto the programmer and then work on that. With a SOP 8 test clip, you can do 'onboard' programming...

The procedure to reprogram a used KOMBI is
1. Use R270 to clear up the mileage (which is the purpose for R270)
2. Modify the VIN bytes from the binary. Write the modified binary back to the EEPROM
3. After doing the above steps, the CPU will treat itself as a brand new one. Then, you connect the KOMBI to your car, upgrade the program by using WINKFP, write VIN by using Tool32 and code it by using E-SYS

I hope you can understand what i'm talking about. Enjoy!

Hello hamfei i just received the programmer, please help me with the procedure.

I have the programmer , the socket board and the external TCO pin, please could help me? i don´t how to connect it.

Please see this:









Also, do you have i guide for disassembly the F10 Speedometer and reach the eeprom?

Originally Posted by tankren

nonghao~
my car is BMW 116i urban line with basis instrument cluster, someday I asked larryzhou(maybe you know his name) whether my car can retrofit the 6WA(directly), he said NO because the cable is different. Is that true? thx
I do not need the 609 but I'm really interested in the extended kombi, if you can solve my doubt, much appreciate

Same here...

My dealer made me tried a F20 with the "black panel" but did not tell me it was not in my configuration... I was disgusted when I entered my brand new car...

So since then I am looking to find a solution, but sounds really IMPOSSIBLE to get this done as I can read there no?

If someone has latest ISTA you could check the diagrams of 6WA & compare to standard cluster to see if there is a different bus from the ICM maybe?

Hello I just open the instrument cluster But I can't find the EEPROM.

I need help, please take a look to the pictures:














Thanks

I found it take a look next post

Originally Posted by mateforrest

Hello I just open the instrument cluster But I can't find the EEPROM.

I need help, please take a look to the pictures:

Attachment 359322
Attachment 359323

Attachment 359324

Attachment 359325

Attachment 359326

Attachment 359327

Attachment 359328

Thanks

Hamfei please help me,

here is my eeprom and two pictures.

I´m not sure whats the bytes i should erase.

160D-35160-0127(48)EEP(DD27000_BMW).BIN.pdf





Thanks in advance for the help

Originally Posted by mateforrest

Hamfei please help me,

here is my eeprom and two pictures.

I´m not sure whats the bytes i should erase.

Attachment 359330

Attachment 359331

Attachment 359332

Thanks in advance for the help

It is supposed to be the Start from 2E08h, then the next 8 bytes pairs:



Can you match the R270 Hex Editor up with this picture using HxD hex editor, or maybe use HxD hex editor instead?

Originally Posted by mateforrest

Attachment 359329

Yes 160D0WQ is the chip you need to connect with.

You didn't post the most important part of the HEX. it's supposed to be on 2E08. You need to navigate to the location of 00002e0

R270 is not user friendly. My procedure is
1. Use the advanced function button of 35080/160
2. Select 160D0WQ and click to 'erase mileage'
3. Modify the VIN and then 'save binary'
4. Load the saved binary and then write. Before writing, make sure that the ECU type is selected as 160D0WQ

Good luck!

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

It is supposed to be the Start from 2E08h, then the next 8 bytes pairs:

Originally Posted by hamfei

Only thanks to you and Lycos my friend.

Originally Posted by mateforrest

Hamfei please help me,

here is my eeprom and two pictures.

I´m not sure whats the bytes i should erase.

Attachment 359330

Attachment 359331

Attachment 359332

Thanks in advance for the help

Ok, i've found that. It's on a different location.

Check from 0x7F, modify the data to FF until 0x8F. It stores the full VIN there.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

Only thanks to you and Lycos my friend.

I checked the attached BIN and found that the VIN is stored in a different location in this Chip.

It's from 0x7F to 0x8F, with full VIN...

The original car information according to the stored VIN --



Type
Value
VIN WBAYC410X0DD27000
Type code YC41
Type 730D XDR (EUR)
E series F01 (MUE)
Series 7
Type LIM
Steering LL
Doors 4
Engine N57T
Displacement 3.00
Power 190
Drive ALLR
Transmission AUT
Colour SCHWARZ 2 (668)
Upholstery LEDER DAKOTA/DK BARRIQUEROT (LCDK)
Prod.date 2011-05-18

Originally Posted by mateforrest

Hello I just open the instrument cluster But I can't find the EEPROM.

I need help, please take a look to the pictures:

Attachment 359322
Attachment 359323

Attachment 359324

Attachment 359325

Attachment 359326

Attachment 359327

Attachment 359328

Thanks

When you get a chance are you able to describe how you took out the instrument cluster? I am going to need to take it out soon too.

Originally Posted by djsaad1

When you get a chance are you able to describe how you took out the instrument cluster? I am going to need to take it out soon too.

Check through this thread. it contains a video

Originally Posted by hamfei

Check through this thread. it contains a video

Hamfei please, also check this directions:

From 0x59E to 0x5A4

There is the short vin stored .

Regards