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E46 (1999 - 2006)
The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 01-04-2013, 03:06 PM
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Ok so I paid someone to do it!

Brand new to BMW ownership and after 2 weeks ran into cooling system problems. I have found a BMW mechanic who seems very knowledgeable and communicative. After many phone conversations and sleuthing we agreed to have a rework of key components completed on the car.
Expansion tank and cap
water pump
2 pulleys
coolant

Under $ 1000 dollars. I know I could save by doing it myself but do not have the time or correct equipment to do the job properly. Seem reasonable?
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:50 PM
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Unbelievable rip off.
You can get the:
Expansion tank
Water pump
coolant hoses
temp sensor
coolant
for $292....http://www.oembimmerparts.com/produc...oolrefrkit.htm

You can do it in one afternoon, about 4 hours even never having done it before.
If not, max labor should be $300 IMO.

No more than $600 total for an Indy.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:04 PM
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:11 PM
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Brand new to BMW ownership and after 2 weeks ran into cooling system problems. I have found a BMW mechanic who seems very knowledgeable and communicative. After many phone conversations and sleuthing we agreed to have a rework of key components completed on the car.
Expansion tank and cap
water pump
2 pulleys
coolant

Under $ 1000 dollars. I know I could save by doing it myself but do not have the time or correct equipment to do the job properly. Seem reasonable?
No, not totally unreasonable. Especially if you have not the time, inclination, or ability to do it. Let's add $200 for doing the pullies to the $600 mentioned above and you're at $800. Maybe you could have done a little better, but you did not get a royal ripoff. Don't sweat it.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:30 PM
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Don't know what pulley cost $100 as I have never spent more than $30 for a pulley.

http://www.oembimmerparts.com/produc...436590ae46.htm

add $60 to my estimate, not $200...but then again, my kit has two coolant hoses in it that you did not mention so it is a wash....and believe me you are getting ripped off. Some may not think so since they paid the same or more, but you need to find an honest INDY and you'll see what I am talking about.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:28 PM
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$1000 is too much....
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:37 PM
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Thanks to all for the input. I'll be printing this and sharing with my "new" mechanics. I'll honor their quote but make sure they know I'm not real pleased with the cost. Next time I'll post here before getting work done.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:32 PM
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You're not a very assertive guy with your repairs. You were hosed and can never go back there. This guy is not going to turn into a moral person.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:59 PM
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Thanks to all for the input. I'll be printing this and sharing with my "new" mechanics. I'll honor their quote but make sure they know I'm not real pleased with the cost. Next time I'll post here before getting work done.
If you haven't had the work done already and don't like the quoted price don't use him. There's no need to pay a price you think up front is too high.

Check for other BMW mechanics in your area here www.bimrs.org
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:00 PM
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If the guy buys parts from a place that is more expensive than what's here and marks them up a bit (not uncommon) and there is tax on parts, and tax on labor, and a couple galons of coolant you could be at $1,000. Also, what's the hourly rate? CT is not known as the cheapest place to live from what I hear. Ask questions and look at all aspects of the estimate before confronting, you could be burning a bridge which may not be in your long term interest, especially if the guy knows what he's doing and you just bought a car you can't wrench yourself.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:04 PM
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If the guy buys parts from a place that is more expensive than what's here and marks them up a bit (not uncommon) and there is tax on parts, and tax on labor, and a couple galons of coolant you could be at $1,000. Also, what's the hourly rate? CT is not known as the cheapest place to live from what I hear. Ask questions and look at all aspects of the estimate before confronting, you could be burning a bridge which may not be in your long term interest, especially if the guy knows what he's doing and you just bought a car you can't wrench yourself.
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side note - the first time I drove through CT I paid more for gas than I ever had in my life. I sat in my car at the gas pump for literally five minutes before I could bring myself to get out and pump the gas.
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:03 AM
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If you break the $1000 down, it is probably market rate for BMW specialists to do this job. I would assume their labor rate is at least $100.00. The parts probably came from the dealer, so I would estimate they cost at least $400. Give them 3-4 hours to install, fill it up with their coolant and then pay taxes. It sounds high, but this job was most likely done in one day with no hassle, no busted knuckles and no freezing to death by the owner. I got caught in downtown Nashville with a busted ET and used a good shop to install a new one, fill the tank and bleed it - cost me something like $270.00.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:35 AM
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In the Silicon Valley, a brake job costs more than $1,000 and a battery replacement is $500 ... so a lot depends on where the OP lives.

The OP can get specific labor rates for his locale from here:
Finding a reputable BMW indy in your area (1) (2) & the consumers' checkbook method of finding a good mechanic (1) & repairpal labor/job/shop rates by zip code (1) & other things to consider replacing while you're already there (1)
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I just did ccv, all of the cooling system except radiator, disa valve kit and power steering resevour for well under a grand. Although if you figure your time is worth something I would be well over a $1000.

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Factor in your time, the cold, and not having tools, and you probably made the right call. Most of the guys that DIY here are young(ER) and don't mind hanging over the engine compartment for 4 or five hours. I used to do everything myself, and I still do the easy stuff, but there is nothing like getting that call that says your car is ready, and you can pick it up anytime you want. You also avoid walking like a crazed gorilla for a for days, and you don't have to scrape dirt out from under your fingernails for the next week. If you can afford it, pay. As others mentioned, you might have overpaid by about $100 or so, but if the shop is good, you don't have to go back for small stuff, and the experience is pleasant, just move on. Always good to have a backup shop to compare prices and keep em on their toes.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:22 PM
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Unbelievable rip off.
You can get the:
Expansion tank
Water pump
coolant hoses
temp sensor
coolant
for $292....http://www.oembimmerparts.com/produc...oolrefrkit.htm

You can do it in one afternoon, about 4 hours even never having done it before.
If not, max labor should be $300 IMO.

No more than $600 total for an Indy.
+1, if you are doing all that might also just change the thermostat & expansion tank cap as those are in the same area.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:26 PM
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In the Silicon Valley, a brake job costs more than $1,000 and a battery replacement is $500 ... so a lot depends on where the OP lives.

The OP can get specific labor rates for his locale from here:
Finding a reputable BMW indy in your area (1) (2) & the consumers' checkbook method of finding a good mechanic (1) & repairpal labor/job/shop rates by zip code (1) & other things to consider replacing while you're already there (1)
I don't know wth in the silicon valley you go to but $500 for a battery, that's just ridiculous. As for the brake job for $1k, it's about right but can be cheaper if you buy your own parts online. Lots of reputable Indy's in the Silicon Valley from the expensive- Rennwerks & Dinan, to reasonable Bavarian Motorsports & Edge Motorworks.
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