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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 02-14-2008, 07:04 PM
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CAmshaft Position Sensor DIY

OK before anyone goes ahead and says to search I have done that already!!!!

I can not find any kind of write up on a DIY for the CPS.. I should be getting it in tomorrow and i would like to replace it this weekend. I dont even know where to start, i dont know where it is located. Any quick help will be appreciated..

Tomorrow i will look at my bently manual i know it should be there. But just wanted to know any quick tips by anyone thats whilling to share..
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:11 PM
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:24 PM
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Well, not perfect but maybe this V8 CPS information will give you a good idea to begin? I am guessing it's a similar part and procedure. Sorry, can't find anything for the 528i...

E39 V8 Camshaft Position Sensor replacement -and- An E38 V8 version both with pictures and instructions.


(Again, part numbers and procedures not a perfect match for your model...)
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:43 AM
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Ok thanks guys, but i am still unsure as to where this is located. I am going to probly go thru with this tomorrow morning. So i am going to take a look at my bently manual.

The first response doesnt really show me where it is located, and if it does it is showing me that it is on the drive side.....that being said the second post with the 540 shows it in the passenger side. Either way i took a look at the process and it sems fairly easy!

I will try to do some more searching and see if i find anything on the change of one in a 528...

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looks to be a very simple install, much easier than the one on my bike that i reinstalled last night :-)
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:02 AM
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looks to be a very simple install, much easier than the one on my bike that i reinstalled last night :-)
yeah i know it does seem like a very simple install.. I will just do it.. I was looking on bmwtips and i read some guy explaining how to do it on a 528 and it seems you dont even have to take anything off to get to the actual sensor. ONce i get it in later i will just look for it on my car and take it from there.. seems easy enough!
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:38 AM
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yeah i know it does seem like a very simple install.. I will just do it.. I was looking on bmwtips and i read some guy explaining how to do it on a 528 and it seems you dont even have to take anything off to get to the actual sensor. ONce i get it in later i will just look for it on my car and take it from there.. seems easy enough!
Take pictures and make a DIY for it. At least the next guy needing it would get guidance.

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Old 02-15-2008, 06:50 AM
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Take pictures and make a DIY for it. At least the next guy needing it would get guidance.

Thanks.
very true indeed.. being that i dont have my camera anymore.. i will try to get one if not i will try to take th best pics possible with my cell.
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#17 on that diagram. The front of the head cover is the front of your engine.
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Old 02-15-2008, 07:51 AM
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#17 on that diagram. The front of the head cover is the front of your engine.
So it looks like a single bolt holding it in place on the front driver side of the block in the cylinder head section.
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So it looks like a single bolt holding it in place on the front driver side of the block in the cylinder head section.
GREAT!!! That pic was a little better... i cant see the pics that were posted from work, but i will see them later from home! THanks might ust do it tonight...

then all i have to do is worry about reseting the cel.. which i do not have a tool for... i wanna see if disconnecting the battery will work for me!
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:11 AM
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If the problem is corrected, the CEL should eventually extinguish after driving around a bit. However, the error code will still be stored in the obd until you eventually read and clear it.
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:53 AM
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So it looks like a single bolt holding it in place on the front driver side of the block in the cylinder head section.
I know that the I-6's are much more difficult to get to than the V-8's. Keep in mind that on double vanos engines, there is more than one CPS sensor and you have to know which one needs to be replaced. On the 530i engine, while the intake CPS itself is not hard to get to at all, it's the module that the other end plugs into that takes a little effort to get at. You have to remove a lot of the air intake hardware in order to plug in the CPS. Other than that, it's not a difficult procedure.

If you have double vanos, the exhaust CPS is much easier and is on the passenger side of the engine.
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Something weird was going on with the pics in my earlier post and it will not let me edit the post. So, here are some pics...
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Wow, those do look much harder to access than the V8s... my post/links/photo seem irrelevant. Sorry about that, I thought the I6 would be much more similar!

If anyone cares, they are very easy to do on the 740 and 540!
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Kinda late chiming in here. My pics aren't as good as mmm635's but here are a few random ones that I snapped while doing my CPS a few mos back. I think the op has a single vanos engine as I do so we only have 1 CPS which is located kinda next to the oil filter housing on the driver's side of the block. In my pic there was a part w/ oil on it that I'm not sure what it was (vanos solenoid?) that I had to remove also. The hardest most time consuming part is the plug attachment which is under the intake manifold and not easy trying to get your hands in between to get the clip on and off. Again, pics aren't the best (camera phone) but hope they help somewhat.




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Shon528, thanks for the pictures. It shows just where it would be on my '97 528. You mentioned about having only one vanos. I had been led to believe that from '98 on, the 528 had two vanos. For your own knowledge (and my curiosity) you might want to double check that fact.
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I know that the I-6's are much more difficult to get to than the V-8's. Keep in mind that on double vanos engines, there is more than one CPS sensor and you have to know which one needs to be replaced. On the 530i engine, while the intake CPS itself is not hard to get to at all, it's the module that the other end plugs into that takes a little effort to get at. You have to remove a lot of the air intake hardware in order to plug in the CPS. Other than that, it's not a difficult procedure.

If you have double vanos, the exhaust CPS is much easier and is on the passenger side of the engine.
I have a 2001 540, it is NOT a double vanos, just single because it is not a M-6 but it has two cps's, one driver and one passenger side. Do NOT go to the local foriegn parts store to purchase the cps. I did and was still getting codes then gave up and went to the dealer to purchase one and problem solved but the parts store wouldn't give my money back on thier ****ty replacement part even after a severe as- whoopin, just a trip to jail.
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Kinda late chiming in here. My pics aren't as good as mmm635's but here are a few random ones that I snapped while doing my CPS a few mos back. I think the op has a single vanos engine as I do so we only have 1 CPS which is located kinda next to the oil filter housing on the driver's side of the block. In my pic there was a part w/ oil on it that I'm not sure what it was (vanos solenoid?) that I had to remove also. The hardest most time consuming part is the plug attachment which is under the intake manifold and not easy trying to get your hands in between to get the clip on and off. Again, pics aren't the best (camera phone) but hope they help somewhat.




That is exactly where mine is located. I went to do this on saturday and had to stop i was just freaking freezing. I have to do it this week for sure though. It seemed like a PITA! Getting to the actual sensor is not a biggie, but find where it goes plugged into does seem like i am going to have a hard time with being that i have BIG hands..
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:58 PM
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i know that this thread is a little old but for the benifit of anyone else doing this fix ill give my 2cents.

thankfully i was able to push my arm underneath the air intakes to get the sensor plugged in (i unplugged it the same way with a 1" wrench pushing the spring from the top). if you have large hands, or a large wrist then take the sensor out from the top and put it back in from the top then feed it underneath the intakes to the hole that the cylinder thing goes into.
so what i mean is you have your intakes going into the engine and the sensor plug is after the 3rd pipe (i have a 97 528i) down below. go at it from above, looking down on the engine standing on the passenger (right) side. from there you can get your wrench (or hanger as suggested above) down to press the spring and some plyers to pull the sensor connecter part out and plyers to CAREFULLY put it back in. then once your sensor is connected put it underneath the intakes and pull it back out to the front of the engine to the hole. even if you dont have large hands (i consider mine medium, my mechanix gloves are medium 9 and fit perfectly) it will probably save you between one and five minuites depending on how much dexterity you have in your fingers.

i hope that helps!

-> thanks for the walkthrough, the pictures were very very helpful.

-- btw: if you drop your allen (hex) key into the engine bay its probably found its way behind the radiator and underneath the fan.... just raise your car up a lil and unscrew the engine bottom cover thing and push up on the can covering, theres 2 slots that the cover connect to in the bottom. now hopefully your plastic is still plyable (otherwise it will break) so you can push it back a bit, about 2cm, and the bang on the cover until your key pops out... lol, i had lots of fun with that one!
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Still didn't get it. The sensor is at the side of engine at driver's part. Where is the other end?
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Try following the other end. On my V8, it plugs in above the passenger side coil pack.
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Hey True - what model and year are you talking about? did you get it figured out? I've done these several times on a 2000 528i and it is not a diffucult job. Be happy to help you if needed. Over the phone or by E-mail.
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My car is 2000 528i, exactly same as yours. Do you have any picutures or know where the intake camshaft 's position?


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Hey True - what model and year are you talking about? did you get it figured out? I've done these several times on a 2000 528i and it is not a diffucult job. Be happy to help you if needed. Over the phone or by E-mail.
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