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E36 (1991 - 1999)
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:30 AM
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My head lights are somehow messing up. I checked all the connections and its all good. Fuses look good also.

PROBLEM:
Driver side low beam does not work. (its HIDs)
Passenger side AEs both don't work.

So my headlights have like the opposite problem on either side.

I tried fixing it and looking it up, nothing good came up..
I'm at a lost right now.. I'm not very good when it comes to eletrical stuff.

Extra info. I don't have a pass corner light like not bulb or bulb holder socket. I did tape it up though so it doesnt get wet. I have 6kK HIDs 35W ballasts. Had the headlights and HIDs for about 6 months or so?

I'd appreciate any help.
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:53 AM
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Depending on how you have your AEs wired up, the lack of a turn signal bulb on the passenger side could be why the AEs on that side aren't working either. I have my AEs spliced into the turn signal wires, therefore if the turn signal is missing the wire isn't completing the circuit and not allowing the AEs to work. If this is the case, once the turn signal is back in the AEs will work again.

That's my guess, don't know about the HID issue. Good luck.
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Old 07-20-2010, 01:36 PM
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Well when I bought the Dj Autos I order with the AEs and HIDs so it came assembled. I'm assuming they were hooked up properly.
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I don't think the issue is in the headlight assembly, but with the AEs completing a circuit if wired in with the turn signal/parking lights.

Even if the AEs came installed in the lights where are you drawing the power from?

I believe with the pre-installed that you still have to wire the AE power in separately. I could be wrong here, so please correct me if I am.
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Old 07-20-2010, 02:04 PM
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Try this link,

http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/tech...Ellipsoids.htm

This is how my AEs are wired up to the car. Specifically Figure 4 part D, where the wire is spliced from the turn signal/parking light for power.

If yours is setup the same then, I believe the issue is your lack of a turn signal bulb. If it is different then .

Hope this helps.
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alright bro, im in the same boat as we speak. i ordered new hids from ddm cause the black boxes that come off the ballasts are known to go out. that may be your hid problem, except if that were the case it would be blowing your fuse cause it would short out...the angel eye deal, hes right ^..i have mine spliced into my turn sig as well so if yours isnt there then your ae will be non existent lol. try jiggling some stuff around too, the taps for the parking light wire around that area get wet so just try wiggling them around and then fasten everything down.

oh and try switching the ballast to the other side and see if it lights up, thats what i did and thats how i concluded my ballast was the issue. good luck man i feel your pain
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The black boxes (inverters) aren't for the HIDs they are for the halos. Just like said above Tom try to put a bulb in the socket and see if you halos work then. For the HID out just switch the ballast to the other side and see if it still is out and then report back
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:25 PM
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Aright the whole putting a bulb in the socket thing is easy to do...BUT one problem when the corner came off it took the socket with it..
But I'll switch the ballast and update you guys on that.
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Take the socket from the other side
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Actually come to think of it. Since your headlights were pre built you should only need a power to the halos. The ground is coming from your high beams the way the inside of the headlight is setup. I believe the gray wire is the one that will need power. So you light being in there shouldn't make any difference. I can test mine tomorrow and see if my city lights still work without the bulb in it.
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Like 98bimmer said, check that inverter for the AE problem. My faulty inverter would get really hot to the touch as soon as the halos were on (or supposed to be on for the broken side). I had the same problem with the AEs when I bought my preassembled depo HID headlights. Called them and they sent me a new inverter and that solved my AE prob. Not sure how to fix your HID prob tho...
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Old 07-27-2010, 08:34 AM
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Okay finally went and diagnosed this predicament. I fixed the AEs, it was just the wiring.
For the driver side headlights I conclude that the ballasts is out and the bulb is also out. I tested the driver side lows with the pass. ballast..nothing.
Then I wanted to test the driver ballast on the pass. headlight..nothing.
So I think its both the bulb and ballast. Does this make sense? I find it weird that both went out at the same time I'm guessing.
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no thats wrong

the hid's dont fire at all?
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Old 07-27-2010, 08:54 AM
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Well everything works except for the driver side low beams.
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and if you switch the ballast it doesnt work?
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I just had an issue with my passenger side ballast, and when I switched ballasts to check it out, neither headlight would work. Even when I switched the ballasts back to the original positions.

What happened was that the bad ballast on the passenger side had blown the fuse and so when I switched them the drivers side fuse blew... then no headlights

Anyway check fuses number 11 and 12. Those are the ones I blew.
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Old 07-27-2010, 09:20 AM
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Yeah when I switch the pass. to the driver it still doesnt work.
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did you swap bulbs?

it might just be your bulbs
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:37 AM
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Well I tested the driver side ballast to see if it was my bulb. But with the driver side ballast on the pass. side it still doesnt work. Know what I mean? So I pretty much tested the driver side ballast and bulb. And negative feedback.
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ok but your passenger still works fine?

sounds like a fuse to me...
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:42 AM
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Yeah pass works perfect. Alright Ill check the fuses.
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:59 AM
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Alright so check the fuses..I guess both are out now..pass and driver.. :shifty:
But I'm going to buy fuses now. I did changed out the driver side fuse a couple days ago also..idk Hopefully its the fuses..
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put thwhen people change to hid's i think they usually go up 5amps on the fuse i forget but i think thats it
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The fuses I blew were 7.5 amp, but I didn't go up 5 amps when I added the HIDs. You think I should go to a 12.5 amp fuse. Do they make those?

I was thinking the fuse change was for adding AEs since you are drawing more power through the parking lights. I didn't change those fuses either when I added my AEs though.

I put in a 10 amp fuse to test my ballasts and the side that is giving me problems blew that immediately.
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I have 15 amp fuses for my HID's

I was blowing out 10 amps all day.
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