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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 08-09-2016, 08:34 PM
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Looking to get a second set of wheels 18 or 19's for X5 35d

My 2011 X5 35d that i just bought came with the 20 inch 214 rims, the look great but the tire is brand new with summer rubbers on and winter is approaching soon, so im looking to buy a second set of wheels to have all season on or winter wheel, since my X5 is a 35d im a bit torn between 18 or 19 in terms of traction and used prices. I can get 18's for < $400 a set and there's plenty in the market but i'm afraid that it may affect the traction/handling since these tires were mounted on the 3.0i (naturally aspirated E70's.) and the 19's came stock on the 35d and 35i. So is it safe to get 18's instead or just get the 19's, Style, look isn't my priority as these wheels are for winter only.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:47 PM
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I would not be overly concerned either way- traction and handling will be more influenced by your tire choice than the marginal rim difference. Personally Id go with the 19s as I do like to be consistent to the OE configuration. Why, I dont know...

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Old 08-10-2016, 05:36 AM
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but i'm afraid that it may affect the traction/handling since these tires were mounted on the 3.0i (naturally aspirated E70's.) and the 19's came stock on the 35d and 35i. So is it safe to get 18's instead or just get the 19's, Style, look isn't my priority as these wheels are for winter only.
I have a 2/11 build date 2011 X5 35d that came stock with the 18s. It drives fine and I actually prefer it since this is my daily driver and family road trip vehicle.
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Old 08-10-2016, 05:44 AM
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My winter wheels are non staggered 18's and they run fine. In fact, they handle better on normal roads as they track better. Our wider summer wheels try to climb out of ruts in the road.
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Old 08-10-2016, 07:18 AM
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... So is it safe to get 18's instead or just get the 19's, Style, look isn't my priority as these wheels are for winter only.
Yes, it would be safe. You should have a label on the driver's door or door jamb that not only lists the tire inflation recommendations...but also lists the recommended tire sizes. If this info is not on your driver's door/door jamb...then it should be in your owners manual.

The overall circumference of the recommended tires should be approximately the same (at least within 3% (+/-) ) regardless if the wheel/tire combo is 17", 18", 19", or 20", etc. So, as already mentioned, a 17" or 18" winter set-up wouldn't negatively affect an X5 that came originally with 19" wheel/tire combo...if mounted with the recommended tire sizes for that wheel size.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:13 AM
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you can pick up OEM 18's for a song and a dance these days. As others have said, your tire choice will play a big part in winter traction.

Us warm weather folks like myself go all-seasons on 20's and put on chains for the deeper stuff, but you likely should go dedicated snow tires.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:14 AM
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Yes, it would be safe. You should have a label on the driver's door or door jamb that not only lists the tire inflation recommendations...but also lists the recommended tire sizes. If this info is not on your driver's door/door jamb...then it should be in your owners manual.

The overall circumference of the recommended tires should be approximately the same (at least within 3% (+/-) ) regardless if the wheel/tire combo is 17", 18", 19", or 20", etc. So, as already mentioned, a 17" or 18" winter set-up wouldn't negatively affect an X5 that came originally with 19" wheel/tire combo...if mounted with the recommended tire sizes for that wheel size.
just to note, the user manual has recommended inflation pressures for each OEM size, dependent on how loaded the vehicle is and the speed of travel and the type of tire. It's basically like 4 pages of all the possibilities across the entire X5 range. I would use that manual for reference.
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Old 08-10-2016, 02:23 PM
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I bought set of 18" in Discount tires. $114 per piece and set of Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2.
What I would do is get 18" and Michelin Xi2 tires, here is why:
1. 18" will give you more cushion in winter when roads are going bad. Handling will not be affected that much as X5 suspension is really potent. What might be a problem is tire like Blizzak that is super soft and deep, and tend to deforms on dry when you push car. I personally am not impressed with that tire, but it would be overkill for OK where you need good tire on black ice.
Also, take into consideration that people in states like CO are driving X5 on 235/60 R18.
2. Michelin Xi2 is not something special in blizzards, deep snow, slush. But they are amazing on ice. They are in DT $201 (In CO) for 255/55 R18. I would go with that tire because it is really good in dry, and ice and that is what you need in OK, since you do not have mountain passes at 11,000ft.
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Old 08-10-2016, 06:54 PM
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18" 209 Star Spoke Wheels and Dunlop Grandtrek Run-Flats performed just fine in a Canadian winter. I concur that the extra sidewall is nice to have when it's extremely cold.
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Looks like ill be getting the 18's then for winter time, as far as tires i don't really think i need snow tires (knock on wood) as last year we didn't have any, so i think it safe to go with some good all seasons, i had good results on some michelins premieres on my other DD during one of our bad snow storms, perhaps i should get a set of those.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:59 PM
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I have a set of 18s with Blizzaks for the winter for past three seasons. Quieter and more comfortable ride than the larger original equipment setup. Handling fine in dry mountain roads with 18s, although summer setup better.
No comparison in snow though. The winter tires can't be beat.
The wheels are Ronals. Look close to OEM but different finish.

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Look on local Cl lots of 18's near me alot with good tires already mounted.
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Looks like ill be getting the 18's then for winter time, as far as tires i don't really think i need snow tires (knock on wood) as last year we didn't have any, so i think it safe to go with some good all seasons, i had good results on some michelins premieres on my other DD during one of our bad snow storms, perhaps i should get a set of those.
The reason why I recommended Xi2 is that they are as far as I know ONLY winter tire with 40K warranty. That means they do really good in dry. Most of my friends here who ski during blizzards and inclement weather hate them, as they are not really good in deep snow. But, in ice and dry, probably best winter tire.
Now, take into consideration that difference in braking between winter tire and all season tire in dry below 45 degrees could be more then 15ft, and as temperature drops more, that difference increases in advantage of winter tire. Same goes for all season tire when temperature is above 45 degrees, then AS tires perform much better.
Now, this works if you going to have two sets of tire. If you re only going to use 18" during entire year, then stick to AS. But if you think of two sets and two sets of AS tires, then that does not make sense.

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Old 08-11-2016, 10:53 AM
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I was in a similar boat as an OP and instead of getting a replacement set, I replaced OEM RFTs with all-seasons but kept my beloved 214's for year round use.

A $400-500 can get you a set of 18"s however those will likely be worn and will need a $700 worth of tires, plus the TPMS, plus worry about swapping them off for the season, and storage place...To hell with that headache. I bought a set of all season Nitto Mottivos on sale for low 700+ 200 for installation and alignment, and then sold my RFTs for 250.
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The reason why I recommended Xi2 is that they are as far as I know ONLY winter tire with 40K warranty. That means they do really good in dry. Most of my friends here who ski during blizzards and inclement weather hate them, as they are not really good in deep snow. But, in ice and dry, probably best winter tire.
Now, take into consideration that difference in braking between winter tire and all season tire in dry below 45 degrees could be more then 15ft, and as temperature drops more, that difference increases in advantage of winter tire. Same goes for all season tire when temperature is above 45 degrees, then AS tires perform much better.
Now, this works if you going to have two sets of tire. If you re only going to use 18" during entire year, then stick to AS. But if you think of two sets and two sets of AS tires, then that does not make sense.
Precisely! Today's tread compounds undergo significant change as the temperature drops. A tire that delivers the adhesion characteristics of highly pliable elastic quickly becomes a stiff plastic in sub 32 temperatures. If, like most people, you find the idea of your X5 travelling down the road at 70 MPH wearing the equivalent of four hockey pucks, a tire with the appropriate winter compound is highly recommended.
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