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Old 06-06-2015, 01:30 AM
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Nail on my RFT

Big nail hit my tire today, right in the middle

drove slowly to a Big Tire Shop, the guy said "sorry sir the tire is not repairable so it will be $304 for a new P7 Pirelli"

Drove 100 meter to the little tire shop "No worry mate, $20 job"

drove home and $304 - $20 = $284 saving

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Same thing happened to my son 2 weeks ago on a runflat on his bimmer...but got caught for a new one from the stealer in Cardiff.

He was gutted...who says runflats shouldn't be repaired??

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Old 06-06-2015, 05:15 AM
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Same thing happened to me. I was able to drive for another 30 miles no problem, but no one here in NJ would touch a run-flat. Some of the tire stores even said that it was against the law to repair one. So I had no choice but to spend $230 for an OEM Conti.

Seriously considering changing over to a regular tire. Much more affordable, but I would have to get a spare - which with very little room in the trunk will be a pain. I've read varying opinions here on the fest.
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Same thing happened to my wife just this week. One store said it could not be repaired and offered a replacement tire for $420. One block away they repaired it for $15.
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Nail on my RFT

The major question is: how far did you drive on the flat, and what kind of damage did you do to the sidewall when driving on the flat.

RFTs are somewhat sacrificial (same as non-rft) - if you drive almost any distance, you damage the sidewall, and the tire needs to be replaced. They aren't made to run without air, they're made to allow you to get to a safe place before you have to stop. Replacement is then recommended by all RFT manufacturers. If you walked out in the am, saw the flat, pulled it off the car and took it to be repaired, then it's another story. The 'in-between' is where it gets tricky.

Most big-tire-stores avoid repairs because the same yahoo who wants them to slap a plug in a seriously-damaged tire, is the same yahoo who will sue them when his sidewall comes apart while at speed.

I've had my original RFT fixed once, but the store dismounted the tire to fix from inside, and they likely saw that it hadn't been driven on (found it flat in the morning, no TPS indication the night before).

This is why I switched to normal tires: if I have a choice between "stop & repair" or "carry on a short distance and replace", I'll choose the repairable option.

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Old 06-06-2015, 08:59 AM
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The major question is: how far did you drive on the flat, and what kind of damage did you do to the sidewall when driving on the flat.
Exactly. Which is why I carry a 12v compressor so that the offending RFT may be inflated as necessary in order to avoid internal damage en route to a repair facility.

The last RFT puncture I had was never run below 30 psi and the repair extended the life of the tire by another 15,000 miles until the tread wore down.

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Exactly. Which is why I carry a 12v compressor so that the offending RFT may be inflated as necessary in order to avoid internal damage en route to a repair facility.

The last RFT puncture I had was never run below 30 psi and the repair extended the life of the tire by another 15,000 miles until the tread wore down.

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Based upon the last half dozen posts, about folks driving into Big Tire Store and immediately getting refused a patch, there is not a visible way to KNOW WITH CERTAINTY that the RFT indeed NEVER was run while flat...RFT function is, after all, to allow you drive into the store on a punctured tire with NO air. How are they to know that you used your air compressor to keep a slow leak full?!...no way to know. And in our litiginous society, repairing your tire could mean one day you sue them for repairing the tire improperly, they next time it fails. No winning, is there?!

OTOH, the bozos COULD dismount the tire, look for evidence it was run while flat, and then refuse to repair the tire!

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That does it...battery powered inflator gone in the boot...sorry, trunk.

Is it ok to have runflats on the front with ordinary on the back?? And vice versa?

My Volvo has one of those space saver wheels...are they available to fit either fat back tyres or thinner front tyres on my bimmer, (sorry, tires)?

And, how does one secure a space saver in one's bimmer? And would I have to fit an extra turbo to maintain 0-60 tare-ass exceleration?


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Based upon the last half dozen posts, about folks driving into Big Tire Store and immediately getting refused a patch, there is not a visible way to KNOW WITH CERTAINTY that the RFT indeed NEVER was run while flat...RFT function is, after all, to allow you drive into the store on a punctured tire with NO air. How are they to know that you used your air compressor to keep a slow leak full?!...no way to know. And in our litiginous society, repairing your tire could mean one day you sue them for repairing the tire improperly, they next time it fails. No winning, is there?!

OTOH, the bozos COULD dismount the tire, look for evidence it was run while flat, and then refuse to repair the tire!
I use a local tire store (discounts to BMWCCA members) and they had no qualms about plugging the RFT when I told them it had not been driven while flat.

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Is it ok to have runflats on the front with ordinary on the back?? And vice versa?
Not a good idea. Different construction (and even different tread patterns) will often result in nasty handling surprises. Maybe if you never drive on wet roads and keep the speed under about 35 mph...

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I drove for 5km at slow speed got it repaired
Order new tire online for 179
Will get it replaced
I refused to pay 304 for same tire

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That does it...battery powered inflator gone in the boot...sorry, trunk.

Is it ok to have runflats on the front with ordinary on the back?? And vice versa?

My Volvo has one of those space saver wheels...are they available to fit either fat back tyres or thinner front tyres on my bimmer, (sorry, tires)?

And, how does one secure a space saver in one's bimmer? And would I have to fit an extra turbo to maintain 0-60 tare-ass exceleration?

Large volume of posts answering above, yours for the price of a Google! About 10 years o'posts.

You'll discover what a ContiKit is, but that Costco has a dandy unit, small change. I have both for the Bimmer; a Costco unit in all my rides.

Now then. Has the runflat nail happened to me? Nope. But I did run OEM Potenzas down to threads, inside rears. Air leak! About 70 care free, but driven with prudent velocity, miles later, PS2's arrived. That was nice - but runflats did not let me down FWIW.


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Rft allowed me to drive to repair then give me time o replace later date at cheaper price

In 40 years of driving, I have changed flat tires only twice, once for two female strangers while out driving on official business in a public utility company vehicle, and once for a step daughter a 1/2 block from our home...any other time a still-leaking go-flat has gotten me to the repair shop on a slow leaking tire, in a lot more comfort than a RFT
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Big nail hit my tire today, right in the middle

drove slowly to a Big Tire Shop, the guy said "sorry sir the tire is not repairable so it will be $304 for a new P7 Pirelli"

Drove 100 meter to the little tire shop "No worry mate, $20 job"

drove home and $304 - $20 = $284 saving

FXCK U big tire shop
Pirelli is one manufacturer that does not endorse repairing of RF tires. Some Pi RF tires in the US carry 'road hazard' warranty coverage (not all - not the P7).
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Bridgestone and Michelin apparently allow repairs to punctured runflats.
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For some reason I have three car punctures in 12 months, twice on my road bicycle in 4 weeks

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not a good idea. Different construction (and even different tread patterns) will often result in nasty handling surprises. Maybe if you never drive on wet roads and keep the speed under about 35 mph...

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Bridgestone and Michelin apparently allow repairs to punctured runflats.
Also true in the U.S. with many stipulations about inspecting the interior of the tire for any signs of damage and exactly how the tire should be repaired. NO plugs.
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I've plugged my own RFTs twice. Easy to do. $8 kit. I knew that I had not abused the tire... just found the tire pressure low and fixed it both times before driving on it. The plugs held firm and if a plug had failed... even at high speed... I knew I was safer with the RFT than with a non-RFT.
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I've plugged my own RFTs twice. Easy to do. $8 kit. I knew that I had not abused the tire... just found the tire pressure low and fixed it both times before driving on it. The plugs held firm and if a plug had failed... even at high speed... I knew I was safer with the RFT than with a non-RFT.

Waiting for Finance to do their thing at the dealer, I watched a BMW video explaining that RFT's stay on the wheel much better than non-RFT's after deflation - high speed movie of sudden deflation, both types, proved their point.

Yep there is better performance there w/RFT than without. But not better feel or handling!

PSS.....yep, PSS. I've never had a blowout...with any tire.
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A big bmw dealer in downtown Chicago once plugged my Bridgestone rft without hesitation. Plug held for a year with a slow leak before I got non rfts. Drove several times at 20-ish psi, short distance, low speed. Aside from the uncomfortable and loud ride of rfts, I found them to be pretty sturdy.

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