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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 02-17-2015, 03:18 PM
SeaNile SeaNile is offline
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Down to these final 2 choices

Found 2 nearly identical X5d that I will check out tomorrow. Both blk/blk and have 37,xxx miles. Only difference between the two is one has 3rd row and the other has technology and cold weather package.

Both are pretty much loaded with the options I would chose anyway. Would be fun to have the technology package but in reality the 3rd row is the better choice for me.

Going in the morning to check them out.
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Old 02-17-2015, 05:13 PM
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We recently bought a 2012 X5 35d with 36k. Had 3rd row, premium pkg, tech pkg and cold weather pkg. it's my wife's and she loves it.

We needed the 3rd row for occasional car pooling and the premium and cold wthr pkgs were mandatory as we live in MD with coldish winters. The only thing I don't like it that the 3rd row takes away the optional spare and makes run flats not required but more practical.

So far over 3k miles we've averaged almost 25mpg on mixed driving. Pretty good for a peppy luxury suv.

Good luck.
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Old 02-17-2015, 05:59 PM
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tough call. I recently bought 2012 X5d with 3rd row I would say 3rd row is more important than tech for me and more useful. For me, I'll find myself in a pinch and needing the 3rd row more often than the items in the tech package.

The most important and useful tool in the tech package to me is the side cameras, used for parking and views.
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:12 PM
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Wouldnt you buy the best deal? Or neither if you cant come to terms?

To get the best deal, focus on the terms NOT on which is "THE ONE".

IMO

FYI 3rd row adds air suspension, a feature with limited benefits (only useful for loads, not a performance feature) which is more failure prone.
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:56 PM
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Doubt I would regret getting the 3rd row even if used infrequently. The technology package sounds pretty cool but there is no getting around not having a 3rd row. I'm confident each one of these can be bought for the same price and have within 500 miles of each other. Same color combo, same options other than what was mentioned. I'll be there tomorrow as soon as they open to check out the 3rd row X5. If it is not in excellent condition, etc then I will go and look at the other one. Could be driving home the 3rd row by 11am. We will see....
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Old 02-18-2015, 07:47 PM
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SeaNile,
what made you choose the X5d? I am on the market myself and just curious. With current fuel prices it does not have any cost advantage. What is it, drivability, acceleration, etc? Thanks.
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Old 02-19-2015, 09:20 AM
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Not sure I have a good answer other than it would be fun to have something different. I don't keep my cars long and am interested to see what the experience is like with the diesel and hopefully a slight increase in MPG, etc.

First drive in X5d was yesterday, liked the feel and the only thing I noticed is the steering was a bit heavy. Not sure if that was related to the model or the general feel of BMW's. Been a while since my last BMW...

Didn't really notice the diesel sound but of course it's there because I wanted to see if it was noticeable. Used to have a boat with twin diesels....now that was loud!!
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Old 02-19-2015, 09:22 AM
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Hi 6-spd,

I was in a similar situation as SeaNile a year ago and also picked a very lightly used 35d. It is not about $ savings as you point out but more about ease of highway drivability and just fuel thus pollution savings.

To get the same acceleration once at highway speed, the 35d will just stay in its top 6th gear and go just using its torque in an incredibly smooth way; the 35i will drop usually 2 gears of its 8-speed trans, revs will go up, ultimately it will gain speed. That and the 29mpg I get on highway and 22 in mixed commute. This said, as others pointed out, make sure there are enough diesel pumps around where you live.
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Old 02-19-2015, 01:00 PM
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SeaNile,
what made you choose the X5d? I am on the market myself and just curious. With current fuel prices it does not have any cost advantage. What is it, drivability, acceleration, etc? Thanks.
While diesel price is about 10% more expensive than premium gasoline, the X5d is 30% more fuel efficient than a 50i (but only a little more efficient than the 35i)....so depending on how much your drive, you'll still save a bit on fuel costs.

Why choose X5d over 35i?:

1. Towing capacity with the extra torque
2. slightly better mpgs

Why choose X5d over 50i?
1. primarily mpgs.
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Old 02-21-2015, 04:23 PM
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what about carbon deposits on gas-powered direct fuel injection engines (35i), that requires engine teardown every 30-50k mi. Can this be also used as a reason to go Diesel?
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:18 PM
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what about carbon deposits on gas-powered direct fuel injection engines (35i), that requires engine teardown every 30-50k mi. Can this be also used as a reason to go Diesel?

Diesel has the same problem. Check the diesel forum.
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:37 PM
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One more thing, diesel takes longer time to start when temperature is cold. You have to wait for glow plug to get fuel warm enough.
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