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Old 05-08-2013, 04:01 AM
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3 girls who went missing found ... alive

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How the heck did he recognize the girl? It was 10 yrs ago and it wasn't like she was super well acquainted with him. Weird.
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How the heck did he recognize the girl? It was 10 yrs ago and it wasn't like she was super well acquainted with him. Weird.
he didn't recognize her from his own account - she told him who she was, and he it started to dawn on him when he was on the 911 call - he said he thought she was dead - so the name was familiar to him.
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he didn't recognize her from his own account - she told him who she was, and he it started to dawn on him when he was on the 911 call - he said he thought she was dead - so the name was familiar to him.
He said he looked at her and said "you looked familiar". Eerie considering it wasn't yesterday she went missing
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He said he looked at her and said "you looked familiar". Eerie considering it wasn't yesterday she went missing
I'm a face person - I remember faces when I've met someone years earlier - I suck at names... but faces I can do... really, I am *good* at faces... he might be similar. I remembered someone I met for a few minutes more than a decade after we met - it took me an hour or so to remember them... but when I was able to remind them of the event we met at, they remembered the event - but not me (it wasn't that big a deal - I was one of hundreds)... people's memories are triggered by different things... faces work better for some people than others.

Considering that 10 years ago, the disappearance of this little girl was probably a *very* big thing in the area, just as at the moment, here in Colorado - the disappearance of Dylan Redwine is on the news every week, multiple times - and he went missing 5 months and more ago - I encourage everyone to look CLOSELY at the faces on these posters of missing children - you never know when you might run across one... these little girls were missing 10+ years!!
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This guy is pure gold.

this guy rocks.

he wants the girls to get the reward money.


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On Tuesday, CNN host Anderson Cooper asked Ramsey what it felt like to find out that he had been living next to kidnapping victims.

"See, that's why now I'm having trouble sleeping," he explained. "See, up until yesterday, the only thing that kept me from losing sleep was the lack of money. See what I'm saying? So now that that's going on, and I could have done this last year, not this hero stuff, just do the right thing."

"Because there's a lot of people, they're saying you're a hero," the CNN host noted.

"No, no, no. Bro, I'm a Christian, an American, and just like you," Ramsey insisted. "We bleed same blood, put our pants on the same way. It's just that you got to put that - being a coward, and I don't want to get in nobody's business. You got to put that away for a minute. You have to have cajones, bro."

Cooper noted that the FBI had offered a reward for at least two of the victims.

"I tell you what you do, give it to them," Ramsey said.
"Because if folks been following this case since last night, you been following me since last night, you know I got a job anyway."

"Just went picked it up, paycheck," he added, producing an envelope from his pocket. "What that address say?"

"Where are them girls living? Right next door to this paycheck. So yes, take that reward and give it to -- that little girl came out the house and she was crying."
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I've seen stories that the police had been to the house to investigate reports of screaming and/or sightings of women on more than one occasion over the years but evidently didn't see anything suspicious since they never went in the house or pursued things further than a quick stop. That's scary.
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I've seen stories that the police had been to the house to investigate reports of screaming and/or sightings of women on more than one occasion over the years but evidently didn't see anything suspicious since they never went in the house or pursued things further than a quick stop. That's scary.
Police chief said none of that ever happened.
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I was oblivious to the whole story 'til I read into it today. I don't think I have ever suddenly stopped eating because I lost my appetite but I felt sick to my stomach too. Sexually abused and raped for 10 yrs living in confined quarters shackled and chained and then giving birth to a baby raising it in that environment and having enough stregnth to give it love and keep it blind to the facts.

This is like a horror film we all line up to pay and watch only this time it's real.

If only torture was permitted. In other parts of the world they would be put to death. We live a sick sick disgusting world.
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Weird PC Slate article claims it's classist and racist to find this guy amusing. Reading Ramsey's 911 transcript, that's this guy's personality! He just loves to tell stories and it has nothing to do with race or class. He's just a unique voice (much like Kai the Hitchhiker and Rebecca Martinson's sorority rant).
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I like the guy but I'm not sure if I'd have gone with the 'pretty little white girl running towards a black man' angle. Also didn't like his saying that dude had testicles. Balls to me is courage. Castro is a coward, not courageous.

But he (Ramsey) did what he did, hat's off to him, I hope he gets some great job offers or the like from this.
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Nasty business.

This should be a death penalty case.

My heart bleeds for the victims, stolen into slavery, may their lives be easier in the future.
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I've seen numerous other calls elsewhere for gruesome sorts of punishment. One guy responded that it sounded like 'Sharia envy.' It is kinda ironic that we rail against Sharia law and then at times want to go all medieval on someone's ass.
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I've seen numerous other calls elsewhere for gruesome sorts of punishment. One guy responded that it sounded like 'Sharia envy.' It is kinda ironic that we rail against Sharia law and then at times want to go all medieval on someone's ass.
He starved the women for 2 weeks at a time when they got pregnant and then punched them in the stomach to miscarry. He did this 5 times to one woman.

If he got out a mob would tear him to pieces.
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In no way do I want to soft-pedal the crimes of this creep. Not sure that societally sanctioned torture-execution is a good idea though. He's going to be miserable in any prison as the Latino mafia would be making money selling him to the Aryan Nation gangs or something like that before they'd be protecting him. IOW, he'll be in isolation the rest of his life, or until he's executed, not sure what Ohio law is.

*EDIT* No wait, I guess death wouldn't be on the table, unless forcing a miscarriage is considered murder, which it perhaps ought to be - it's different than a woman obtaining a wanted abortion.
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^^^ In Ohio it is and the prosecutor is considering the death penalty.
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He just loves to tell stories...
He sure does - apparently there's at least one more guy who's 'more hero' than Ramsey, but he's "me no speak americano'.
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He sure does - apparently there's at least one more guy who's 'more hero' than Ramsey, but he's "me no speak americano'.
Angel Cordero. He is mentioned in some of the stories, but not many.
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Local police sources revealed that Ariel Castro would use a sick game to 'train' the three girls not to run away by pretending to leave the house, only to beat them if they tried to run free.

This is said to be just one of the manipulative tactics he used to keep the three young women in his house for up to ten years, in addition to frequent beatings and chains hanging from the ceiling.

He also reportedly turned the home into a 'fortress' by setting up a stockade round the back.

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No wait, I guess death wouldn't be on the table, unless forcing a miscarriage is considered murder, which it perhaps ought to be - it's different than a woman obtaining a wanted abortion.
I haven't read the stories in detail, how far along were the pregnancies?

I'd be curious to read the legal arguments of why it could be perfectly fine to abort the fetus if a desired abortion, but murder if it isn't. Seems a bit like having your cake and eating it too?

(I believe OH has abortions legal until "viability" (~24wks): http://www.guttmacher.org/statecente...s/spib_OAL.pdf)
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I see no conflict with that question. The life of the fetus is intimately connected to that of the mother. If the mother is unwilling to carry the child, it's not pretty but there is nothing to stop her from attempting to self-abort. There is a long history of such a thing and not by accident. Carrying, birthing, and raising a child is a huge proposition and for various reasons, women are sometimes not up to it.

For this ass to force miscarriage so he can continue using them as sex toys is just a bit different.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...130015065.html

The two brothers have received death threats and say they hope he rots in jail. Lousy timing for them that they were with him when he was arrested.
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Lousy timing for them that they were with him when he was arrested.
Did they not live in the house with him?
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Where do you get that? Read the story. From what I've seen, their account is completely credible. When I first heard it was supposedly 3 brothers, I had my doubts. For 3 people to keep that monstrous a thing secret would be unusual methinks.

Also I've read that the 3 victims have cleared the brothers, saying it was the one guy only.
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