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Old 08-31-2016, 02:06 PM
liyan.zhang liyan.zhang is offline
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Need help with the trouble code

My 2002 BMW X5 3.0i have read out a lot of trouble code.
But the engine still run, can someone tell me if those code are serious or not?
P0313, P0172, P0175, P0012, P0015, P0128, P0011, P0161
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by liyan.zhang View Post
My 2002 BMW X5 3.0i have read out a lot of trouble code.
But the engine still run, can someone tell me if those code are serious or not?
P0313, P0172, P0175, P0012, P0015, P0128, P0011, P0161
Thank you.
a lot of codes. You should buy a Bentley manual. Lists all the codes and has most of the info you'll need for working on these cars.
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Old 08-31-2016, 09:31 PM
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+1 on the Bentley manual
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Old 09-01-2016, 02:46 AM
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P0313 Misfire Detected with Low Fuel
P0172 System Too Rich
P0175 System Too Rich
P0012 "A" Camshaft Position - Timing Over-Retarded
P0015 "B" Camshaft Position - Timing Over-Retarded
P0128 Coolant Thermostat (Coolant Temperature Below Thermostat Regulating Temperature)
P0011 "A" Camshaft Position - Timing Over-Advanced or System Performance
P0161 O2 Sensor Heater Circuit

something may be up with the vanos unit
seems timing related to me

you dont have any symptoms at all... strange noises... hard starts... bad gas milage... smoke?
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Old 09-01-2016, 11:05 AM
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Thanks for the advice, may car have some symptoms like rough cold start. And when the engine is warm, it hard to start.
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Old 09-01-2016, 03:54 PM
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Are they all current codes? Old codes will often still show up if they weren't cleared after repair.
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Old 09-02-2016, 01:02 AM
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yea... if your timing is 'off' it will cause these symptoms.

what's happening with ALL the codes is a domino effect
the having of issues with 'other in the way components'

example... not necessarily related to your situation...
the number 3 injector stops working... lets say because it's unplugged for some reason
you may get a code for
+the injector malfunction
+one for the number 3 cylinder misfire
+and maybe one for the oxygen sensor and or catalytic converter

the unplugged number 3 injector caused a misfire over number 3 cylinder which caused unburned gases to go down the exhaust and affect the catalytic and or o2 system
once the MAIN problem is resolved in this case re plugging the injector
the others will 'quietly go away'
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Old 09-02-2016, 08:06 AM
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Are they all current codes? Old codes will often still show up if they weren't cleared after repair.
I have clean them up yesterday, and I have a drive after that, there is only one code there P0011.
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Old 09-02-2016, 01:11 PM
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yea... if your timing is 'off' it will cause these symptoms.

what's happening with ALL the codes is a domino effect
the having of issues with 'other in the way components'

example... not necessarily related to your situation...
the number 3 injector stops working... lets say because it's unplugged for some reason
you may get a code for
+the injector malfunction
+one for the number 3 cylinder misfire
+and maybe one for the oxygen sensor and or catalytic converter

the unplugged number 3 injector caused a misfire over number 3 cylinder which caused unburned gases to go down the exhaust and affect the catalytic and or o2 system
once the MAIN problem is resolved in this case re plugging the injector
the others will 'quietly go away'
Thank you very much for the information.
So maybe the solenoid is broken in the Vanos and cause those trouble?
Now after I clean the code, only P0011 left when I start the engine.
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Old 09-02-2016, 08:39 PM
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then start with changing / addressing that... its easier than dealing with the VANOS system.
from carobdcodes.com

P0011 BMW Intake Valve Timing Control Performance Bank 1
Possible causes
- Faulty Intake Valve Timing Control Solenoid Valve
- Intake Valve Timing Control Solenoid Valve harness is open or shorted
- Intake Valve Timing Control Solenoid Valve circuit poor electrical connection
- Faulty Camshaft Position Sensor
- Engine coolant temperature sensor
- Camshaft Position Sensor harness is open or shorted
- Camshaft Position Sensor circuit poor electrical connection
- Faulty Crankshaft Position Sensor (POS)

Trouble Code Description
Since the Intake valve timing control solenoid valve uses oil flow to control timing, dirty oil can cause the valve to stuck open or close. Before replacing the valve, change engine oil and filter and reset engine code.
What about the obd code?
When there is a gap between angle of target and phase-control angle degree, the valve will stop working and the ECM will trigger the P0011 BMW code.
Symptoms
- Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)
- Possible engine lack/loss of power
- Posssible engine rough idle

P0011 BMW OBD Code Description
This mechanism hydraulically controls cam phases continuously with the fixed operating angle of the intake valve.


The ECM receives signals such as crankshaft position, camshaft position, engine speed, and engine coolant temperature. Then, the ECM sends ON/OFF pulse duty signals to the intake valve timing control solenoid valve depending on driving status. This makes it possible to control the shut/open timing of the intake valve to increase engine torque in low/mid speed range and output in high-speed range.

The intake valve timing control solenoid valve changes the oil amount and direction of flow through intake valve timing control unit or stops oil flow. The longer pulse width advances valve angle. The shorter pulse width retards valve angle. When ON and OFF pulse widths become equal, the solenoid valve stops oil pressure flow to fix the intake valve angle at the control position.


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Old 09-12-2016, 01:51 PM
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That is so useful, thank you so much. I have ordered one solenoid and replace that.
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