Will the 2014 Lexus IS doom the F30 3er?!

Originally Posted by Ronin951

Dear Lexus,
The photoshop smudge tool isn't for designing taillights. Also, Audi called and wants their grill back.

Hahahaha Awesome!

Originally Posted by sekitori

I tried to figure out a name for this monstrosity. At first I thought of "opposing trapezoids" but that was much too kind. Then I hit on the one that describes it best--the "obese hourglass" grille.

It already has a name...spindle grill.

Originally Posted by mr_clueless

It already has a name...spindle grill.

How about the "Septic grate"?

Originally Posted by sekitori

I tried to figure out a name for this monstrosity. At first I thought of "opposing trapezoids" but that was much too kind. Then I hit on the one that describes it best--the "obese hourglass" grille.

My first thought was "bottom feeder."

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t_first_drive/

It looks better in black than white... the darker color "mutes" some of the styling details.

But here's the tidbit that caught my eye: Bigger back seat and they now fold down 60/40! This is a HUGE deal for me and one of the reasons why I always eliminated Japanese brands like Lexus and Infiniti before...their back seats wouldn't fold down which hugely limited the utility of the car. So now I'm looking at a luxury performance sedan that has added utility (I can finally throw my mountain bike in the back), more interior room, unquestionable Toyota reliability and solid resale value? Hmmm... I might be able to "overlook" some of the styling cues for that.

Originally Posted by AK

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t_first_drive/

It looks better in black than white... the darker color "mutes" some of the styling details.

But here's the tidbit that caught my eye: Bigger back seat and they now fold down 60/40! This is a HUGE deal for me and one of the reasons why I always eliminated Japanese brands like Lexus and Infiniti before...their back seats wouldn't fold down which hugely limited the utility of the car. So now I'm looking at a luxury performance sedan that has added utility (I can finally throw my mountain bike in the back), more interior room, unquestionable Toyota reliability and solid resale value? Hmmm... I might be able to "overlook" some of the styling cues for that.

You are right, looks really good in Black! What a difference!

Originally Posted by AK

unquestionable Toyota reliability

Does look pretty good i wonder how it drives. We test drove the current is350 and it was nice and strong and sounded good. Just didnt have it though. Curious to drive this one. But it wont matter my next car will be an ///M unless the isF steps it up BIG TIME.

I wouldnt be able to take neither cars to the limit so the one that is the better combination of handling looks and pricing would win for me. Of course i can pick up an e92 later on or a 1m coupe (when the overpriced used market nonsense is over).

Originally Posted by av98

With an ugly face like that the only IS customers live on another planet- Predators. Plus is it an ES, GS or IS, I can't tell the difference from the front they all look the same.

I cant tell the difference between the f10/f30 from the back. What difference does it make?

I think the gs fsport looks ****ing awesome. Now if it really had an f motor in it - wow.

Originally Posted by bayoucity

Lexus is a rebadged Toyota.

There, fix it for CA.

Id take a toyota LFA over any bmw ANYDAY.

Originally Posted by pkim1079

Id take a toyota LFA over any bmw ANYDAY.

But since we can't, we are back to square one.

Originally Posted by pkim1079

Id take a toyota LFA over any bmw ANYDAY.

That's the problem with the pointless Toyota LFA...I'd rather get an Aventador with enough money leftover for another 328 and an X3.

Originally Posted by pkim1079

Id take a toyota LFA over any bmw ANYDAY.

$375,000 buys a lot of BMW's lol

Originally Posted by pkim1079

Id take a toyota LFA over any bmw ANYDAY.

Until BMW makes a $400,000 car, we should not compare it to the LFA. Frankly, for $400,000, there are many other cars I would buy before the LFA.

It doesn't look as bad in these newly released photos:

Originally Posted by 408Racer

That's the problem with the pointless Toyota LFA...I'd rather get an Aventador with enough money leftover for another 328 and an X3.

I have always considered Lamborghinis to be the ultimate nouveau riche low life car. If I was looking for a car in that price range it would not even be a consideration as I would be embarrassed to be seen in one. Lambos should come with bumper stickers that say "lots of money but no class". I wouln't care if they came out with a car that went 0 to 60 in 500 nanoseconds, pulled 12 Gs in cornering force and could drive up the side of a building, it will always be a car for rich parolees in my eyes.

This picture of Poop Duty in a Lambo pretty much sums it up.





CA

Originally Posted by bayoucity

It doesn't look as bad in these newly released photos:

Yeah, in my eyes it looks every bit as hideous in these shots as the others. The worse thing is it looks even worse in 3D/real life.

No matter how you sell it, that is a Fugly looking car. Should be called L-F*!k'd design. Wth is Lexus heading, scary.

Yeap, still looks awful with that pinched Audi grille and those hideous tail lights. But hey, for younger buyers (especially wapanese/weeaboos ) it may still look "sick" and "phat" (whatever word is now trendy to describe the tasteless car "design")

Originally Posted by captainaudio

I have always considered Lamborghinis to be the ultimate nouveau riche low life car. If I was looking for a car in that price range it would not even be a consideration as I would be embarrassed to be seen in one. Lambos should come with bumper stickers that say "lots of money but no class". I wouln't care if they came out with a car that went 0 to 60 in 500 nanoseconds, pulled 12 Gs in cornering force and could drive up the side of a building, it will always be a car for rich parolees in my eyes.

This picture of Poop Duty in a Lambo pretty much sums it up.





CA

Since I can't afford one now, if/when I do, then yes, I'd be happy to be a nouveau rich low life driving a Lambo.

Just to balance out the Puff Doody pic:

Originally Posted by tturedraider

Yeah, in my eyes it looks every bit as hideous in these shots as the others. The worse thing is it looks even worse in 3D/real life.

Originally Posted by 408Racer

Since I can't afford one now, if/when I do, then yes, I'd be happy to be a nouveau rich low life driving a Lambo.

But the Aventador has Flappy Paddles. Flappy paddles are like those people who "dance" while sitting on their chairs at wedding receptions.

Last fall I had a conversation with a guy who had test driven an Adventador. He was a professional race driver with years of experiece and had driven sports cars, GT Prototypes, Indy Car, Nascar and had been successful in all of them. He really disliked the Adventador transmission. He felt the shifts were much too jerky and tended to upset the car. This is probably not an issue for the rappers and drug dealers that are Lambos main client base.


CA

Originally Posted by tturedraider

Yeah, in my eyes it looks every bit as hideous in these shots as the others. The worse thing is it looks even worse in 3D/real life.

I'm not a big fan of the grill, but it's not a bad futuristic design overall, IMO. At least they are not trying to copy the Mercedes and BMW designs like Kia and Hyundai, and the other beauty-is-truly-only-skin-deep auto manuafacturers do.

Originally Posted by captainaudio

I have always considered Lamborghinis to be the ultimate nouveau riche low life car. If I was looking for a car in that price range it would not even be a consideration as I would be embarrassed to be seen in one. Lambos should come with bumper stickers that say "lots of money but no class". I wouln't care if they came out with a car that went 0 to 60 in 500 nanoseconds, pulled 12 Gs in cornering force and could drive up the side of a building, it will always be a car for rich parolees in my eyes.

This picture of Poop Duty in a Lambo pretty much sums it up.



CA

Lamborghini is the antithesis of Ferrari.

Originally Posted by captainaudio

But the Aventador has Flappy Paddles. Flappy paddles are like those people who "dance" while sitting on their chairs at wedding receptions.

Last fall I had a conversation with a guy who had test driven an Adventador. He was a professional race driver with years of experiece and had driven sports cars, GT Prototypes, Indy Car, Nascar and had been successful in all of them. He really disliked the Adventador transmission. He felt the shifts were much too jerky and tended to upset the car. This is probably not an issue for the rappers and drug dealers that are Lambos main client base.


CA

Touche'

I guess bemoaning the fact that the Aventador doesn't come with 3-pedals will open up a different can of worms...let's just say that although I prefer and have only dated Asians, if Scarlett Johansson were to show up and give me her unconditional surrender, I'm not about to respond with, "Sorry, not my type."

Interesting to hear about the jerky shifting...I wonder if the jerkiness will be tolerable/forgivable in street driving "cruise and destroy the lesser cars" mode? Sort of like needing the actual experience of being with a flatulent Scarlett.