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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 01-17-2013, 10:47 AM
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Trouble find the right e60

So I posted here 2x before on purchasing a 530xi but however the deal never went through and the person is keeping the car. Now i found a second 525i with 79k miles for 17k but does not have navi. I now have two question

1) Do you guys think that price is a bit much with milage and no navi

2) Is there anyway i can buy and install the navi seperate and what will that cost me.

BTW am in NY and if anyone know of where i can purchase and E60 please let me know.. Thank guys in advance
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:51 AM
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That's a deal, here in Midwest it would be 25k

I don't have Nav, I use my iphone.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:54 AM
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Thanks Indiana

I was a bit salty having a BMW without navi you know kinda defeats the purpose to me. I have an iphone 5 and the navi on that thing sucks.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:00 AM
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Buy after market NAV app for phone tons out there.
I feel in love with my car so NAV wasn't a big deal.

Let me know if u can Install it.
I don't use Nav in any of my other cars but neat to have the option...

Good Luck keep us posted on your purchase.

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Old 01-17-2013, 11:05 AM
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OK, great advice but i would prefer it on the actuall BMW Idrive than my phone, do you know if a dealer will be able to install the navi or an after market navi
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:58 AM
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Thats to much for a 525i.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:01 PM
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Thanks kushp

My same thoughts kushp becuase the 530xi was fully loaded with 88k miles for the same price.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:14 PM
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My same thoughts kushp becuase the 530xi was fully loaded with 88k miles for the same price.
yeah, keep looking you will find one with nav. You'll regret not having it.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:18 PM
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No sure on adding let us know
Maybe you could get the price down even lower by not having Nav.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:41 PM
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The sales person told me they will call me back, @ KUSHP14 i am becoming a bit impatient but will keep up the search. @ frankjr8 I was thinking why not just load the disk into the cd player.
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:24 PM
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The sales person told me they will call me back, @ KUSHP14 i am becoming a bit impatient but will keep up the search. @ frankjr8 I was thinking why not just load the disk into the cd player.
If you only have CD player & no DVD, you don't have NAV. If you have 6.5" screen with car info on the menu screen, you don't have NAV. 17k for a 525 with 79k mi. is too much.
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:32 PM
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I guess i should keep waiting and looking. I really do not want to get into something I will regret
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:52 PM
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Well I have nav on my 2010 E60 and its not very good. Its good to have I guess but I will just use my phone gps or my garmin unit that I get lifetime updates for free. The BMW updates are around $250 and not worth it.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:33 AM
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I may not use the navi that much but i figure why get a BMW without Navi, its a lux sport sedan I would like as much options as possible. But I will continue my search today at work.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:43 AM
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Honestly, for navigation your best bet is a Garmin or a smart phone w/ Google maps.

The navigation in the new iDrive is decent, but nothing great. In the old iDrive, its about on par w/ that in my wife's Lexus. Also, you'll likely need to pay a few $100 to update the maps if the navigation software is built into the car. On the other hand, my Google maps on my iPhone costs me nothing extra than my current phone service and is regularly updated.

$17k sounds too high for a 525 with that many miles. Also, more options aren't always good. I can certainly appreciate the sport and premium packages and the cold weather package is nice living in the northeast. However, active steering costs me extra for alignments and in general there are just more things that can go wrong.

I think if you can find a car with at least the premium and sport packages, I think you'll be very happy. The logic7 (upgraded sound) is pretty nice too if you are an audiophile. Although you won't really get the full benefit of L7 without satellite radio or an aux source that is unless you like burning those little old plastic discs called CDs.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:58 AM
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lol @ burning those little old plastic discs called CDs, no i was thinking of using my iphone since i got over 6000 songs. I some times drive my brother in law 530xi and feel in love but I am becoming Impatient. I spend atleast 40% of my day looking for the right E60 and has yet to come across anything that blows me away
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:00 AM
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I bought my 06 550i with 82k miles (no nav, no HUD) for $14.9k........I'd say $17k is too high for this car.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:14 AM
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yes everyone is saything the samething and How is the 550 someone informed me that those have more issues over all other 5's.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:08 PM
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So a while back I wrote a simple regression program that would look at some data on cars.com to get an estimate of what's a good price for a car in a local market.

Haven't run it in a while since developing it some, but just tailored it to 525's within 250 miles of Brooklyn. Surprisingly, it ran with very few tweaks.

I've attached a figure and a PDF of a spreadsheet. The figure shows the expected price of a car along with its actual sale price. The expected price is computed by performing a multi-regression fit to the data extracted from the web. Wherever the expected price exceeds the actual price is an indicator of potentially finding a good deal. I've highlighted those index entries in the spreadsheet by setting the text to bold. Note that right now the program tends to miss if options or packages are installed because of inconsistent listing among dealerships - still working on some data fusion to resolve that minor issue.

Sample size is 199 cars, but based on incomplete information about the significant predictors, only 190 were able to be used. The main predictors for this set were mileage, year, presence of AWD, and Premium Package.

Here's the regression equation

Price = $29000 - $0.084/mile - $1082/year* + 933 IF AWD + 620 IF ZPP.

year is relative to 2012 so if the vehicle was a 2006 525 then year = 2012 - 2006 = 6

Adjusted Rsq (goodness of fit) is 0.72 which is decent

On a side note, I was incredibly surprised to see how many dealerships very poorly list transmission specs. Most forget, but others simply list 6-Speed. For this generation of 5 series its impossible to determine Auto from Manual because they are both a 6 speed. I guess I'll need to start reading in the images and train some neural nets to differentiate between the shift levers...

If anyone else is in the market for a car let me know, still trying to fully exercise the program so that it may be suitable for deployment on its own website someday.
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2010 Lexus RX350 AWD (hers) -Smokey Granite Mica -Black -Premium -Comfort -Nav -Tow Prep -Premium Sound -Wood Steering Wheel/Shifter

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Old 01-18-2013, 08:13 PM
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Sweet! But I lost you in the graph...
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:14 PM
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:06 AM
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Don't rush into buying a car because the price sounds good or you are getting impatient. You will fine the exact car you want. Otherwise you will regret buying your car from the minute you see the car you actually wanted.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:49 AM
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@kupid ,You would be happy with a 550i if you found it for a good price , there pretty solid. Just try to stay away from the 545i.

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