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Old 08-12-2013, 11:31 PM
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too much oil ??

Hi,

As I'm trying to narrow down why sometimes I have a bit of smoke during the start-up, I just checked the oil level with the dipstick while the engine was cold. unfortunately, I saw that the engine has too much oil (sure, I thoroughly dried the dipstick with a tissue before re-dipping and measurement):




now I know that the engine has too much oil, but the question is:

is it dangerously high?
if not, can it cause a bit of oil burning here and there? can it foul plugs? should I drain the oil or just leave it as is until next oil change?


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Old 08-13-2013, 03:40 AM
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Yeah... To much oil is just about as bad as no oil

you could have rings, seals, or a CCV

drain that out a little man
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:21 PM
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Yes, too much oil is an issue, in fact it's a more significant problem than too little oil*. Make sure it's parked on level ground when measuring.

As to why you sometimes get smoke on startup, consider the spark plug gaskets and rocker gasket allowing some oil to pool in the cylinder.

*note too little does not equal empty. If i'd meant empty I'd have written empty.
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:42 PM
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Yes, too much oil is an issue, in fact it's a more significant problem than too little oil*. Make sure it's parked on level ground when measuring.

As to why you sometimes get smoke on startup, consider the spark plug gaskets and rocker gasket allowing some oil to pool in the cylinder.

*note too little does not equal empty. If i'd meant empty I'd have written empty.
Thanks!

I read somewhere that the scaling between max and min is actually around 1 litter. that means that the extra amount I have might be less than half a litter, right? or wrong? anyways, surely extra oil is not good, yet how much extra, is bad? I wish I had a more precise measurement other than pouring all the oil out
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:28 PM
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....... between max and min is actually around 1 litter. that means that the extra amount I have might be less than half a litter, right? or wrong?
Looks more like 0.75L high to me, which is maybe just over what's considered the margin for error.

Of course, it might have started out higher and you have burnt some of it off as evidenced by the smoke at startup - if it looked more blue than white.

Whether that's the cause of the startup smoke or not, I think it worthwhile to siphon a bit out of the dipstick tube.
Use something like this: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Performanc...-Pump/14698313

That will at least remove any risk of the oil churning around and frothing which is what can cause big problems.

But generally I would have thought you need to be at least a quart over-filled for that to happen.
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Old 08-15-2013, 06:28 PM
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Check your valve cover gasket, that could causes smoke from engine area. Don't worry about the CCV valve
unless you were blowing smoke from pipe.
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Old 08-15-2013, 08:57 PM
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I just decided to empty my pocket and pour some fresh oil from scratch! wasn't sure if previous owner poured good oil in it or not... hope it will work better
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Old 08-17-2013, 07:26 PM
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Cool Dipstick?

I'm jealous. You actually have a dipstick. I just got my ,2008 and discovered the level is monitored electronically and there is no dipstick. I d on 't kno w the kcondition of the oil so I'm taking it in to my Indie for an oil and filter change with a check of all other fluids on Monday. That way I can start from clean.
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Old 08-17-2013, 08:05 PM
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yeah too much electronics, and when something goes wrong............ god bless the owner! anyways, I really thing BMW is not a very DIY friendly car, and surely not designed with reliability in mind, yet it has that thing......... that gene, that character, that blinds you, hehe
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too much oil ??

Too much oil could also flood the inside of the engine and would have at least a 12k repair lol.
I'm curious, do you do your own oil change your do u have a local mechanic do it?


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Old 08-18-2013, 05:13 PM
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Too much oil could also flood the inside of the engine and would have at least a 12k repair lol.
I'm curious, do you do your own oil change your do u have a local mechanic do it?


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