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Old 07-11-2013, 08:45 AM
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535d VS 535i

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I see everyone out here is ordering only gas version and nobody seem to be interested in deisel version. Even though this is a new engine and the price diffrence is not that much, any input since i am planning to go for 535d
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:24 AM
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There's a 535d thread started a few weeks ago that may be of help.
For me, I'd never driven one and I needed a car soon, so I went with the 535i.
Minor issues were having to make sure diesel fuel was available when I needed it (not really a big issue), and slightly higher maintenance of the emission contol system (offset by fuel savings).
The limited torque band also gave me pause, but it doesnt seem to be much of an issue based on reviews I've read of the 530d. The US version is actually the 530d renamed 535d.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:33 AM
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The diesel is brand new to the US market so there isn't a lot of opinion based on personal experience in this forum.

I would definitely consider the diesel but the test drive would be all-important. Most of my driving is in comfort mode at such low rpm that I wouldn't have believed it possible a few years ago. Low rpm is where the diesel shines. Having the power band stop below 5k might sound like a big deal to those of us who have driven a stick for many years, but it might not make any difference in real world driving.

I sure wouldn't take the plunge without a serious test drive.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:39 AM
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The 535d would be my first choice. I wish it was available when we ordered our 5 last summer.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:46 AM
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Hello,
I see everyone out here is ordering only gas version and nobody seem to be interested in deisel version. Even though this is a new engine and the price diffrence is not that much, any input since i am planning to go for 535d
welcome to the 'fest! Performance of the 'd is very close to the i, and fuel economy is much better. I think you're on the right track

The 'd is priced a bit higher than the i, but in the past BMW has offered a $3-4k 'EcoCredit' for their diesels. Right now we're hearing that they are not planning to offer that at this time, but its one of those things that may be implemented shortly after they hit the market and start showing up in the dealer lots.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:49 AM
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535d VS 535i

We had a 335d and loved it. Although when we drove the same engine on the X5 35d we found it to be a bit underpowered . I think with the 8spd tranny, the 535d will feel responsive enough for enthusiastic driving.


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I'm not a big Diesel fan but I would have seriously considered a *REAL* 535d. Apparently those things defy logic in that they're immensely powerful and get great gas mileage. The 530d (what's being marketed as the "535d" here) isn't as enticing as the gasser 535i to me. I haven't driven one but as much as I like torque I'd hate to sacrifice some HP.
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+1 - the REAL 535xd is an absolutely ultimate mixture of performance and fuel economy. Myself never having been a diesel fan before, I seriously considered buying one, but it was a dilemma between a used 535xd and new 528xi. The latter won, but only for that peace of mind a new car offers ...
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Had they brought over the 550d, I would have gotten one instead of the 550i. My wife has the X5d and we love it. I will say you do have to be a little more careful in that there are not as many diesel filling stations as gas, but I have not found this to be an issue. Maybe if you live in a more remote area this could be a problem (or in Illinois where I guess there is some issue with the diesel fuel there)
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:10 PM
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Look forward to test driving the 535D.
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Old 07-12-2013, 08:32 PM
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We have an MB E320 CDI diesel.

First, as others have said, the diesel makes power where we drive in the real world. Mileage is better, but the range difference is huge. The BMW has a smaller tank than the MB, but the newer engine design, 8spd trans, auto start/stop, etc. will probably make them comparable. We get in the 600s except when highway trips are concerned, then in the mid-700s. For us that means NJ-Boston-NJ or NJ-WashDC-NJ with driving around in-between on a single tank of fuel.

The issue of the low engine speed isn't. The issue is power under the curve. There, in acceleration to 100km, BMW rates it even with the 535i. To 1000m, when aero losses soak up HP and the time below the peak power range after launch is less important, the 535i is bit faster. How often is the 80-100mph most important?

The real 535d is halfway between a 535i and 550i. The M550d is about the same as the 550i.

Note: all the magazines show an Audi A6 to be much faster than a 535i, so if acceleration is the key, is the 535 really the answer? For that matter, an S7 is just a tick more expensive than a 550i, and has acceleration close to an M5.
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Old 07-13-2013, 03:26 AM
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That comparison isn't totally legit though. I assume many here wanted specifically F10's so it's more about comparing performance within the range or actually even more specifically comparing performance within the I6's available in the F10 range. I for one might have chosen a 528i over an A6 V6 based on the F10's looks, robust driving feel and interior alone (MIGHT have).
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