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Old 02-05-2013, 05:07 PM
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I think Michelin makes a Pilot Sport all season tire as well.
I found this one in tire rack with good reviews from Michelin, is this the michelin pss that is being recommended here?

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus (Ultra High Performance All-Season)
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:08 PM
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Sam-F10...can't help but notice your F10 550i is nicely optioned and has been modded (Dinan S3 w/ exhaust!) with super car capabilities. Might be way beyond the capabilities of any all season tire available today. Unless you have no intentions of exploiting the limits of your car in S3 tune, you might play it safe with the Michelin PSS...just like BMW did the F10 M5.
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:52 PM
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Sam-F10...can't help but notice your F10 550i is nicely optioned and has been modded (Dinan S3 w/ exhaust!) with super car capabilities. Might be way beyond the capabilities of any all season tire available today. Unless you have no intentions of exploiting the limits of your car in S3 tune, you might play it safe with the Michelin PSS...just like BMW did the F10 M5.
Thanks HDEddie1. Does the "PSS" actually stand for Michelin Pilot Super Sports? If so this appears to be a summer tire.

I realize that with summer tire I get added performance but as I am on east coast and hence prefer to stick to one set of tires ( all-season )

But I do a bit of track / autocross events, in fact I did these with my OEM Good year LS2s and they were not bad. This is probably why they wore out in 22k miles ... The reason why I stuck with LS2 is because I have the tire and wheel warranty but as BMW seems to have fixed the bubble issue I am thinking maybe I may not use this warranty anymore and why still stick with RFT.

Few basic questions I have on non-RFT, pls pitch in

- Since I still have stock suspension, if I switch to non-RFT will the ride become more cushy and if so can I negate it by keeping +2 psi tire pressure maybe?

- If I was constrained to pick all-season which tire would you guys recommend?
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:13 AM
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I found this one in tire rack with good reviews from Michelin, is this the michelin pss that is being recommended here?

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus (Ultra High Performance All-Season)
That's a good tire.

Don't sleep on Yokohama's.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:33 AM
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That's a good tire.

Don't sleep on Yokohama's.
thanks.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:22 AM
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Sam-F10, Yes...The Michelin PSS are the Pilot Super Sport OEM tire for the F10 M5 and yes, a "maximum" summer performance tire. That you have an all season requirement, then the Pilot A/S is an all season performance tire would be an excellent choice, from what I've read. The tire rack reviews/surveys support these tire choices as well. I doubt if either tire would be "cushy" and on track days you'd want to run additional PSI+ nevertheless.
I've not tracked my F10 nor have either Michelin tire yet so other posters with specific experience might lend some insight.
BTW...I'm really surprised to hear that you had relative success and long life out of the OEM Goodyears as many posters on this forum have suffered the bubble failure. Even more impressive is that you're able to track the car with stock suspension rather than some race specific upgrade (ie coil overs, adjustable shocks, M5 sway bars, etc).
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:47 AM
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Thanks HDEddie1.

I realized when buying this car it was not for tracking but still it is not too bad for some occasion fun events without compromising luxury. Since I have DDC & ARS is it not that bad. I did a few Autocross and HPDE events and it was fun!

In fact I did all this before my Dinan 3 & Exhaust upgrades. Cannot wait to see how it will perform with it later this summer.

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Sam-F10, Yes...The Michelin PSS are the Pilot Super Sport OEM tire for the F10 M5 and yes, a "maximum" summer performance tire. That you have an all season requirement, then the Pilot A/S is an all season performance tire would be an excellent choice, from what I've read. The tire rack reviews/surveys support these tire choices as well. I doubt if either tire would be "cushy" and on track days you'd want to run additional PSI+ nevertheless.
I've not tracked my F10 nor have either Michelin tire yet so other posters with specific experience might lend some insight.
BTW...I'm really surprised to hear that you had relative success and long life out of the OEM Goodyears as many posters on this forum have suffered the bubble failure. Even more impressive is that you're able to track the car with stock suspension rather than some race specific upgrade (ie coil overs, adjustable shocks, M5 sway bars, etc).
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:04 AM
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You'll smoke em!

With Dinan S3, exhaust, and your DDC set to sport +, I can't help but believe you'll smoke em', literally, the new tires and the competition.

I think your friends on this forum would love to see a video clip of your F10 in action...hunt and kill mode...just rounding the final turn. You GO man!
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:24 PM
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Here is one video from an autox event I drove in, enjoy!

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Old 02-06-2013, 05:26 PM
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So good, I watched it twice!

Amazing! Your car at speed seemed so effortless. Bet the shot from inside of the cockpit was just as fun...the tach sweeping with every slowdown and rev right back up for the next shift. I can also imagine the billows of tire dust with every chicane/turn...wish I were the chase car!
Thanks for sharing
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:20 AM
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Thanks Eddie. It was lot of fun, did not realize this car can do that much...

I see you have a 550 as well, interested in any of these events? I am sure there are plenty more in the west coast.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:46 AM
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There is a new All Season coming this spring from Michelin. Forget the name, but it replaces the Pilot Sport All Season Plus. It is the all season version of the Pilot Super Sport.

I would wait for this of you can.

If you cannot, I have had several iterations of the Pilot Sport All Season and they have been great.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:34 PM
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There is a new All Season coming this spring from Michelin. Forget the name, but it replaces the Pilot Sport All Season Plus. It is the all season version of the Pilot Super Sport.

I would wait for this of you can.

If you cannot, I have had several iterations of the Pilot Sport All Season and they have been great.
That's great news! Thanks NeedsDecaf.
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That's great news! Thanks NeedsDecaf.
Pilot Sport All Season 3

http://www.michelinman.com/pilotspor...FQHonAodAG8ANQ
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BMWBLOG did a preview test with Michelin on these tires, and they were very impressed.
http://www.bmwblog.com/2013/01/22/bm...ot-sport-as-3/
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:08 PM
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I went to the site and checked initial availability for our vehicle and it said won't be available. So I wonder how long we would have to wait for them in our size.
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WOW; Spec-wise, etc., those tires look amazing!!!

G-d I hope they come in the sizes I need!!!

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Old 02-08-2013, 10:42 AM
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Sam-F10: Actually, your video has inspired me. I'll be looking for just such an event. Have some mods I got to do first: Springs, Sways, track rims/tires (much lighter), and if budget permits, a Dinan 2 upgrade. The Dinan upgrade is of particular interest to me...I can only imagine the 550i once the rev limiter and boost is raised.
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Thanks Eddie. It was lot of fun, did not realize this car can do that much...

I see you have a 550 as well, interested in any of these events? I am sure there are plenty more in the west coast.
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It doesn't look like this tire will fit the F10, at least not in the near term.
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It doesn't look like this tire will fit the F10, at least not in the near term.
How about the F01/02 with OEM 20" Wheels?
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How about the F01/02 with OEM 20" Wheels?
Use the link on the web page and see if it fits your car.
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Sam-F10: Actually, your video has inspired me. I'll be looking for just such an event. Have some mods I got to do first: Springs, Sways, track rims/tires (much lighter), and if budget permits, a Dinan 2 upgrade. The Dinan upgrade is of particular interest to me...I can only imagine the 550i once the rev limiter and boost is raised.
Thanks again!
Cheers! Here is one website I found which hosts Auto X type events in your area. There is one on 2/17.....

http://www.solo2.com/EventCalendar.asp
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