Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E36 (1991 - 1999)

E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-22-2013, 04:15 PM
yxd0018 yxd0018 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: west new york, nj
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 115
Send a message via MSN to yxd0018 Send a message via Skype™ to yxd0018
Mein Auto: 328i
first DIY oil change

Yesterday I did my first DIY oil change on my 1998 328i. I used a ramp and use precaution measures such as wheel choke and jack. It went ok. I thought I tightened the drain bolt but when I checked this morning, there is a large oil leakage under the car. Because the bolt is so small and thread is very short, like 2-3 rounds so I don't want to put too much torque onto it. But I did tighten it more.
Now I have 2 issues.
1. even after tightening, after a day parking, I see some oil accumulated under the bolt. It's not dripping yet to the ground. Should I tighten it more? Will it break the thread?
2. When I first start the car in the morning, I heard some high pitch noise. it sounds like metal scratching. After heating up, the sound went away. Now at 6pm, I hear it again when starting the car.
I added 7qt oil in the oil change and see the oil level in the middle of dip stick or whatever it's called to measure the engine oil level. Thinking of the leakage, I add 1/2 qt more now.
During oil change, I found it difficult to screw back the oil filter cap but I managed to put it on.
Besides above 2 points, I cannot think of any reason oil change can cause the high pitch noise.
Any suggestions? Should I reopen the filter cap to take a look? Should I ask mechanic to take a look?

Edit: I will record the sound later.

Last edited by yxd0018; 01-22-2013 at 04:32 PM.
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
  #2  
Old 01-22-2013, 04:24 PM
E36 Phantom's Avatar
E36 Phantom E36 Phantom is offline
I Am The Machine
Location: Somewhere Between The Valley & The Bay
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 20,499
Mein Auto: Dreier, Fünfer & Siebener
Did you replace the crush washer on the drain plug?

Sent from my LG Revolution 4G using BimmerApp
__________________
// Chad //
// 2001 BMW 740i M-Sport // 2002 Lexus LX470 //
// 2009 Kawasaki Concours 14 // 2006 Kawasaki Ninja 250 //
// 1999 Chevy Tahoe //



Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimKlim View Post
You're a derbanana
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-22-2013, 04:29 PM
jonesin's Avatar
jonesin jonesin is online now
The Canadian Prick.
Location: Fort McMurray AB
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 12,687
Mein Auto: '96 328is Cosmos
Quote:
Originally Posted by E36 Phantom View Post
Did you replace the crush washer on the drain plug with the new one that should have been provided with the new oil filter?

Sent from my LG Revolution 4G using BimmerApp
Fixed.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by hnaz View Post
I grew up in a time when the internet was just a baby. Grammar back then versus now... holy cow. You could watch the degradation of society as the internet became more mature.

HAS KEN HAD HIS MEDS YET?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-22-2013, 04:33 PM
E36 Phantom's Avatar
E36 Phantom E36 Phantom is offline
I Am The Machine
Location: Somewhere Between The Valley & The Bay
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 20,499
Mein Auto: Dreier, Fünfer & Siebener
Just like the "u" you Canadians throw in everywhere, you just like making everything longer when it needn't be...........eh?

Sent from my LG Revolution 4G using BimmerApp
__________________
// Chad //
// 2001 BMW 740i M-Sport // 2002 Lexus LX470 //
// 2009 Kawasaki Concours 14 // 2006 Kawasaki Ninja 250 //
// 1999 Chevy Tahoe //



Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimKlim View Post
You're a derbanana
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-22-2013, 04:34 PM
yxd0018 yxd0018 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: west new york, nj
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 115
Send a message via MSN to yxd0018 Send a message via Skype™ to yxd0018
Mein Auto: 328i
Damn, I see it in the package, but not in my drain plug so I didn't. What can I do now?

Last edited by yxd0018; 01-22-2013 at 04:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-22-2013, 04:37 PM
SCJon SCJon is offline
Poet of Signature Quotes
Location: Charleston, SC
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,976
Mein Auto: 1997 BMW 328is
You will have to drain the oil and refill after you put the crush ring on the drain.
__________________

"It doesn't do any good for me to know more than you if you aren't going to listen to me"

Quote:
Originally Posted by petriej View Post
So let it be written, so let it be done.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-22-2013, 04:39 PM
yxd0018 yxd0018 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: west new york, nj
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 115
Send a message via MSN to yxd0018 Send a message via Skype™ to yxd0018
Mein Auto: 328i
k, thanks. what about my #2 issue?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-22-2013, 04:39 PM
E36 Phantom's Avatar
E36 Phantom E36 Phantom is offline
I Am The Machine
Location: Somewhere Between The Valley & The Bay
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 20,499
Mein Auto: Dreier, Fünfer & Siebener
If you completely clean and dry your drain pan you can reuse the new oil. Just do like you did before. Also, you know to let the oil rest in the block for 5-7 minutes before checking the oil level, right?

Sent from my LG Revolution 4G using BimmerApp
__________________
// Chad //
// 2001 BMW 740i M-Sport // 2002 Lexus LX470 //
// 2009 Kawasaki Concours 14 // 2006 Kawasaki Ninja 250 //
// 1999 Chevy Tahoe //



Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimKlim View Post
You're a derbanana
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-22-2013, 04:40 PM
jonesin's Avatar
jonesin jonesin is online now
The Canadian Prick.
Location: Fort McMurray AB
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 12,687
Mein Auto: '96 328is Cosmos
So long as your catch can is clean, you can safely reuse that oil though.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by hnaz View Post
I grew up in a time when the internet was just a baby. Grammar back then versus now... holy cow. You could watch the degradation of society as the internet became more mature.

HAS KEN HAD HIS MEDS YET?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-22-2013, 05:15 PM
petriej's Avatar
petriej petriej is offline
Cruising 280 Top Down
Location: San Jose, CA
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,088
Send a message via Skype™ to petriej
Mein Auto: '99 M3 Cab & '05 X5 4.8is
Take the filter out and put it back in. Make sure all the O-rings are seated properly.
__________________

GGC BMW CCA #443004
Join the BMW CCA!

Quote:
Originally Posted by hornhospital View Post
Jared, why don't you just put "It's Giubo" in your sig? Save a lot of typing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by e36 miguel View Post
this jared guy sounds intimidating lol.
2005 X5 4.8is Le Mans/Black/6spd Steptragic
1999 M3 Cabrio TiAg Metallic/Dove Grey/Black 5 Speed Manual
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1997 328iC Schwarz II/K/K 5MT SOLD 5/2012
2004 645Ci Mineral Silver Metallic/Black 6MT RIP 04/2011
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-22-2013, 07:35 PM
hornhospital's Avatar
hornhospital hornhospital is offline
D'oh, You kids!
Location: In the Grumpy Chair
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 15,120
Mein Auto: 1995 318is / 1993 325is
OP said the plug only went in 2-3 turns before getting tight. That's not right. The oil plug goes in at least 8-10 turns if not more before it pushes the crush washer against the oil pan drain surface. I believe what we have here is a cross-threaded plug. That would explain the leak, too. No matter how tight you pull it, the crush washer is never going to seal the plug, since the plug isn't perpendicular to the sealing surface.
__________________
Quotes to live by:
guessing gets expensive...drivinfaster
nothing is more expensive than a cheap BMW...c4harpe13
buying a ratty example (of a BMW) is a parasitic relationship.(and you ain't the mosquito) 7pilot

Ken Kanne, Silverhill, AL, E36 Forum Mod/Craigslist addict/Hoarder of all sorts of stuff
BMW-CCA #441426
1995 318is "Bebe"; 1993 325is "Elvira" 1985 635CSi "Katja" 1984 633CSi "Sylvia"
HAVE I HAD MY MEDS YET?

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-22-2013, 07:51 PM
SCJon SCJon is offline
Poet of Signature Quotes
Location: Charleston, SC
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,976
Mein Auto: 1997 BMW 328is
Only one way to know for sure. OP, (that's original poster) we are gonna have to get a picture of that plug. And post it here please.
__________________

"It doesn't do any good for me to know more than you if you aren't going to listen to me"

Quote:
Originally Posted by petriej View Post
So let it be written, so let it be done.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-22-2013, 07:55 PM
yxd0018 yxd0018 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: west new york, nj
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 115
Send a message via MSN to yxd0018 Send a message via Skype™ to yxd0018
Mein Auto: 328i
disaster, the thread of the plug is whacked a little bit. I will post picture shortly

Last edited by yxd0018; 01-22-2013 at 08:17 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-22-2013, 07:59 PM
Eight Thirty Eight Thirty is offline
nothing.
Location: Rochester, Ny
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 13,811
Mein Auto: who knows?
good call by the old ken!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-22-2013, 08:13 PM
yxd0018 yxd0018 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: west new york, nj
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 115
Send a message via MSN to yxd0018 Send a message via Skype™ to yxd0018
Mein Auto: 328i
plug is here. I torque too much. Nextby is the washer coming with oil filter. http://sdrv.ms/SyP3nB
You can see the broken point of thread close to the top.
What should I do? buy new one from dealer or any garage will have this plug? I'm afraid if I put this on and it will leak again and I have to drain the oil again. I didn't feel the same tightness as the first time.

Last edited by yxd0018; 01-22-2013 at 08:23 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-22-2013, 08:13 PM
Eight Thirty Eight Thirty is offline
nothing.
Location: Rochester, Ny
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 13,811
Mein Auto: who knows?
weld a patch over it. done right?

picture is broken
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-22-2013, 08:19 PM
ZeGerman's Avatar
ZeGerman ZeGerman is online now
Warm Leatherette
Location: Seattle, WA
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 19,530
Mein Auto: 1998 BMW 328is
That's what I thought would end up being the case.
__________________

1998 BMW 328is
1966 Pontiac GTO
2007 Subaru Impreza 2.5i 5-door
View my photos: Caught in the Wild
For sale: E30/E36 front sway links
For sale: OEM E36 328 catback
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-22-2013, 08:36 PM
yxd0018 yxd0018 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: west new york, nj
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 115
Send a message via MSN to yxd0018 Send a message via Skype™ to yxd0018
Mein Auto: 328i
hmm, I can see the picture even logging out of skydrive. You don't?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-22-2013, 08:40 PM
yxd0018 yxd0018 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: west new york, nj
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 115
Send a message via MSN to yxd0018 Send a message via Skype™ to yxd0018
Mein Auto: 328i
picture from google drive. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BymM...pzUWlYVFk/edit
Suggestion please. I was outside with gusty wind and minus degree.

Last edited by yxd0018; 01-22-2013 at 08:42 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-22-2013, 08:43 PM
ZeGerman's Avatar
ZeGerman ZeGerman is online now
Warm Leatherette
Location: Seattle, WA
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 19,530
Mein Auto: 1998 BMW 328is
I saw it just fine. The drain plug is sheared right off.
__________________

1998 BMW 328is
1966 Pontiac GTO
2007 Subaru Impreza 2.5i 5-door
View my photos: Caught in the Wild
For sale: E30/E36 front sway links
For sale: OEM E36 328 catback
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 01-22-2013, 08:44 PM
yxd0018 yxd0018 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: west new york, nj
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 115
Send a message via MSN to yxd0018 Send a message via Skype™ to yxd0018
Mein Auto: 328i
it seems the introducing small thread is broken but the main thread is still there. How much should I tighten up to make sure it doesn't leak? I wish I haven't redone it.

Last edited by yxd0018; 01-22-2013 at 08:51 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 01-22-2013, 08:46 PM
yxd0018 yxd0018 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: west new york, nj
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 115
Send a message via MSN to yxd0018 Send a message via Skype™ to yxd0018
Mein Auto: 328i
I feel it tighten a bit then loose again. Did I destroy thread in the oil tank?
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 01-22-2013, 08:54 PM
yxd0018 yxd0018 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: west new york, nj
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 115
Send a message via MSN to yxd0018 Send a message via Skype™ to yxd0018
Mein Auto: 328i
Should I tighten it up to its first resistance to see if it leaks. Just like last time, if it leaks I will tighten more? Never thought the plug has so little thread.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 01-22-2013, 08:55 PM
ZeGerman's Avatar
ZeGerman ZeGerman is online now
Warm Leatherette
Location: Seattle, WA
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 19,530
Mein Auto: 1998 BMW 328is
The plug is supposed to have many more threads. You need a new drain plug. Either you or a previous owner over-tightened the plug, and my guess is that it's floating around inside your oil pan (not good).
__________________

1998 BMW 328is
1966 Pontiac GTO
2007 Subaru Impreza 2.5i 5-door
View my photos: Caught in the Wild
For sale: E30/E36 front sway links
For sale: OEM E36 328 catback
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 01-22-2013, 09:08 PM
yxd0018 yxd0018 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: west new york, nj
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 115
Send a message via MSN to yxd0018 Send a message via Skype™ to yxd0018
Mein Auto: 328i
I saw oil pan plug online http://sdrv.ms/XWkfwe
Does all E36 have the same plug? The plug I have doesn't seem to be broken as the surface is very smooth.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E36 (1991 - 1999)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms