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Old 01-26-2013, 03:29 PM
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1994 530i timing chains

this is my first post on this forum and would like to know if there is a thread on doing the timing chains on the 530i M60 i have tried searching but have not found it. i bought this car a silent auction and paid very little for it. i was going to part it out but got talked into fixing it. i own a M6 and 3 633 vintage cars very familar with the 6's not the V-8's if someoine could point me in the right direction it would be great



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Old 01-26-2013, 03:50 PM
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I havent owned a V8 either so cant help you with guidance, but why are you replacing it? usually its there for life, are you sure its not the hydraulic tensioner thats gone?
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:00 PM
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i bought this car and the PO told me that EURO-TECH in Pittsgurgh Pa said it needed a timing chain. that is what we are going on. i figure why not tear the front of the engine off the timing covers are all leaking and have to replace the water pump because i dont know when thats been done so we figure what the hell just do it all and learn something as we go
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:02 PM
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i bought this car and the PO told me that EURO-TECH in Pittsgurgh Pa said it needed a timing chain. that is what we are going on. i figure why not tear the front of the engine off the timing covers are all leaking and have to replace the water pump because i dont know when thats been done so we figure what the hell just do it all and learn something as we go
fair enough! if you would like to take the time to do a write up that would be good

have you tried using our search button? I'm not sure if you will find anything or not but worth a go!
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:24 PM
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we have the front of the engine off down to the lower case. it has not been that bad really. we dont know if we did it right but we havent broke anything and FSM wont be hear till Wednesdy but as my my nephew says "we dont need no stinking FSM"







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Old 01-26-2013, 04:25 PM
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do you own a pair of cam locks?
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:45 PM
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Do you see any indication that you need to replace any of the timing chains?
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:31 AM
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changed game plan with the engine. a friend found a complete low mileage engine for me. we will be swapping this weekend. i will rebuild this engine for another project
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:31 AM
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I would be concerned if the timing chains were off..
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:20 AM
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Whelp. I have a great deal of confidence in your mechanical abilities.

I have a question for you, sir:
If one of your e24s didnt have an ABS sensor at all, how do you think the car would drive? would your Anti-Lock light go on? would the caliper feel as if it was sticking or frozen?

My E28 (almost exactly an E24 sedan) is missing ABS sensors in the front for sure, i never looked at the rear.
Under braking, my front passenger side brake will stick and :lock! lock! lock! lock!: down on the rotor and its terribly frustrtating and somewhat scary. I replaced the caliper and noticed no difference.
The front driverside is also missing the sensor but that works fine. What gives? I can only think its the sensor.
The anti lock light only comes on if i take too long easing the clutch out in gear to be rolling, if that makes any sense, or dont accelerate fast enough

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Old 02-04-2013, 03:09 AM
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well we pulled the engine this weekend. laying under the car you would think that the engine would come out with both exhaust headers in place. well they dont..... you have to take off passenger side for removal









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Old 02-05-2013, 02:25 AM
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Whelp. I have a great deal of confidence in your mechanical abilities.

I have a question for you, sir:
If one of your e24s didnt have an ABS sensor at all, how do you think the car would drive? would your Anti-Lock light go on? would the caliper feel as if it was sticking or frozen?

My E28 (almost exactly an E24 sedan) is missing ABS sensors in the front for sure, i never looked at the rear.
Under braking, my front passenger side brake will stick and :lock! lock! lock! lock!: down on the rotor and its terribly frustrtating and somewhat scary. I replaced the caliper and noticed no difference.
The front driverside is also missing the sensor but that works fine. What gives? I can only think its the sensor.
The anti lock light only comes on if i take too long easing the clutch out in gear to be rolling, if that makes any sense, or dont accelerate fast enough

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i missed this reply for some reason. as far as the abs goes either you do a ABS delete or have all the parts in working order. as far as the caliper locking up i would check the pins what the caliper slides on these are suppose to be very free so the caliper will slide back and fourth as the brakes are applied and when the pads wear also check the retaining clips that hold the pads. sometimes you have to grind a little on the out side of the pads so these just fit snug but not real lose because then you will get a rattle. the one other option is the ABS hyd. control is not letting the fluid return back thru it when you release the brake pedal but i have never seen one act like that

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Old 02-05-2013, 10:56 AM
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Thanks so much for your reply!!! And i apologize for the OT post. I was told lines could be an issue also so I got steel braided units and will replace all of it. If not, i'm just deleting ABS. Thanks for your help!!!! Back to your car now though lol
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:04 AM
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no problem a line collasping could be it also... let me know what the outcome is
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:07 PM
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Thanks so much for your reply!!! And i apologize for the OT post. I was told lines could be an issue also so I got steel braided units and will replace all of it. If not, i'm just deleting ABS. Thanks for your help!!!! Back to your car now though lol
Isnt the abs supposed to have its own computer ? Would disconnecting that become a delete ?
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:26 AM
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Great pics of the M6030 engine, it is a fairly exotic engine when compared to typical 3.0 liter inline six cylinders.
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:46 AM
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the more i dive into this project car and this engine i really like it. i swore i would never mess with a V8 but as you said it is very exotic and well designed i feel. i already have plans for this engine in another car and it is not a 5 but another BMW i will post pics of the rebuild.......and the best part i only paid $250.00 for this car
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:05 AM
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Isnt the abs supposed to have its own computer ? Would disconnecting that become a delete ?
The car in questions is an antique (87 E28) not an E34 so not for this forum. I linked a thread to the E28 forum if you'd lke to chime in there. I only posted because OP is an E24 head and the E24 and E28 are mechanically identical
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:09 PM
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spend this weekend cleaning every thing up and getting bay ready for new engine plus started to tear old enginge down for rebuild. i found a new "short block" from a friend at a BMW dealer who had the block in the parts room since 1997 so i got it for about nothing here are some pics

get area ready to clean engine bay


engine bay before cleaning




after cleaning... this is when you find areas like the one under the brake master cylinder...what happens is people over fill and the fluid runs down and lays on frame rail eats the paint then rust starts this will be repainted










Here are some pics of the engine being torn down i think some will enjoy seeing what makes a M60 tick

this car sat for two months while the owner was deciding what to do with it and something tried setting up house under the intake














a lot of cleaning ahead for me


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Old 02-10-2013, 03:33 PM
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looking great man. You are obviously very skilled and knowledgeable. very happy to have you in the 'fest family.
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Old 02-11-2013, 05:27 AM
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You clean and treat your cars like I do mine. Takes for ever doesn't it?! The results though - so worth while!! Do you de-burr as you go?
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Old 02-11-2013, 05:40 AM
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the real reason why i am doing this build is because of my nephew he is just learning to wrench on cars and i am trying to show him the right way. being clean is so important. (he says we spend more time cleaning up than working on the cars).... i will stop half way thru something and clean up...thats picking up all the tools and everything... then start again... i see people all the time working in filth and dont understand it.....if you pull a engine or anything clean that area before you put the new item in same as the part you are putting back in if it's used. this has a 2 fold effect. 1.) it looks better 2.)you can see if there are any leaks and where they are coming from
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:25 AM
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Hello, what was the outcome of your engine replacement?
Is that nice e34 back on the road?
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:54 AM
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no it is not.....been putting together a 5spd swap for car and just waiting on a couple of smaller parts to find.. but have been doing a lot of other cars here is a partial list that i have for sale right now

1987 e30 325i 5spd vert its for sale $1800.00 i have 2 other e30's for sale


1988 735i 5spd car for sale $2,000.00



1988 BMW 633 for sale $2,300.00
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