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E60 / E61 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series E60 Sedan was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E61 wagon followed shortly there after. The E60/E61 5 series is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 05-13-2016, 01:58 AM
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Well it looks like I'm at the point for valve stems and maybe secondary air system. Won't know for sure until Friday when the car goes in for inspection, but my code reader is giving me an secondary air system fault and after a highway drive then idle at the light I get a small puff of blue smoke. Engine Service light also comes on for a few days then goes back off for a week or so. Idrive states increased emissions, drive carefully.

How much do you think it's going to cost me at the indy shop, I do trust them and is it worth the money to put into the car.

Background, the car is running perfect, looks new inside and out and has not given me one problem since owning 4.5 years. I do really like the car, but not sure I want to dump 1000's into a 11 year old car.

I won't know the cost until next Friday so I'll update there findings then. Just looking for some ballpark figures.
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Old 05-13-2016, 09:49 AM
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There are a couple of folks on here who have established reps and will do it in your driveway for $2500 or so. It's a long, fiddly job that is definitely beyond 95% of BMW DIY'ers.
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Old 05-13-2016, 10:00 AM
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Yes, that is the shame of the valve stem guide design.

Not only do you get the smoke from the oil escaping but it tends to foul with carbon build-up the small ports that the secondary air system uses to send air through the engine to increase the oxygen at the cats and speed up the heating process.

Given the age and value of the car you may decide to live with the occasional puff of smoke and the SES light, and "fool" the system when you have to pass an emissions test.
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Old 05-13-2016, 07:45 PM
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I too have an 05' 545i, which now has 155,000 miles on it. On Thursday 05/06/16 I picked up my car from the indy in which they replaced valve cover gaskets, front end bushings, crank case hoses, radiator, and flushed the brake lines. The next morning on my way to work, I got a "Service Engine Soon" warning light in the center of the dash and on the center display it said "INCREASED EMISSIONS". I had the indy check it out and he too says I've got carbon build up due to the secondary air system. The indy said the dealership would want to remove the heads to due the cleaning but he can offer an alternative by using a special tool that snakes down the secondary piping. The tool also incorporates some cleaning chemicals but will take at least 6 hours of chargeable time. His repair quote is just under $1,000. Ouch!

BTY, I was getting the puff of smoke too and that is why they replaced the breather hoses last week. The mechanic said before the work, my vacuum readings were in the 20's. After the engine work the readings dropped down to proper specs and I've already seen 1.5 to 2 MPG improvement in fuel mileage. Was routinely getting 22-23 MPG, now getting 24-25 MPG. I drive about 43 miles one way to work. About 30 miles is good freeway and I'm usually cruising at 80 MPH when on the freeway.
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Old 05-14-2016, 02:07 AM
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Well the light has went out yet again, Hoping it stays out for inspection and emissions. If so I'll keep the car another year and live with puff of smoke. I'm willing to put about 1500 in the car for now. Anything over that it's getting traded in on something. I just haven't figured out what yet. I'll keep you posted. This just pisses me off with a 58,000 dollar car with only 94,000 miles. As long as I can pass emissions I'll run this baby into the ground. lol

I don't care what anyone thinks, BMW should be ashamed for building a engine like this. I've been trying to read up on the 320's with the 4 cylinders and how they are holding up. Maybe go that route on a certified pre owned. I'm just not one of them people that are will to put 1000's into a 11 year old car that will need other work coming up soon.

I understand the cost of owning a BMW, that doesn't bother me, it's the oil leaks and seals that are just plan BS and expensive to fit.

My love for BMW is fading.

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Old 05-14-2016, 09:27 PM
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Your SES light on and off is likely the secondary air system intermittently passing air and gradually getting worse.

You can clear the emissions faults, but having your SES light out won't allow the car to pass emissions as after the light has been out you have to ensure you have made at least two successful cold starts (where the pre and post sensors go lean in sync with the secondary air pump operation) coupled with the rest of the emissions sensors have been tripped to set the other ready checks after the key components of a drive cycle have been accomplished.

If you don't pass emissions post back to the forum as there is a way to manually trip the secondary air system to ready. While the eight cylinder engine can be a PITA maintenance-wise, the drive quality makes it a rewarding ownership, and if you love it, drive it into the ground.
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Old 05-15-2016, 02:20 AM
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Thanks for all the replies and yes my code reader is stating secondary air system. I'll post back after Friday when it goes into shop for emissions. Light has been out for 3 days now with car ran many trips. So keeping my fingers crossed it stays out. Still going to look into getting the secondary air system fixed.

Your right about the 8 cylinder being a PITA, but it's just so much fun. It's still getting the love and attention it needs. I did a fresh oil change and air filter yesterday also replaced the cabin filters. I really want to keep the car because there is just nothing out there I want right now.

Thanks again, jjp
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:42 AM
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jjp .. How many miles on the car ?
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Old 05-16-2016, 01:46 AM
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