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BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 02-07-2013, 06:27 AM
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I was just about to say that the don't look as bright. I want some that ate going to be like the new F10/E39 that are crazy bright in the daylight, so that I can use them as a daytime running light. I don't want to be limited to night like I am now.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:46 AM
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Those do not look as bright as the Orion V2's or v4's from that picture.
Yes it could be dimmer than Orion from the picture but taking pictures of light source is rather challenging to say the least, maybe cause I am no photographer; that's why I try to take picture of two side-by-side just to give people ideas how they compare.



We discussed this "Orion" thing on the other forums, in rather length:
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ased-depo.html


I like the AE on the very first post in terms of brightness that's what made me bought the DEPO replacement for my X5; though it looks like 7000K with a tint of blue/purple compare to 5600K, natural white, like most of LED bulbs I ve seen lately.

Post #12 (on that thread) is what convinced alot of people, the rest is history.

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Old 02-07-2013, 06:53 AM
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I was just about to say that the don't look as bright. I want some that ate going to be like the new F10/E39 that are crazy bright in the daylight, so that I can use them as a daytime running light. I don't want to be limited to night like I am now.
I would recommend you contact the guys at unmitza directly about angel eye options. If your trying to get them for your E39, call them because the owner also has a E39 with orion v2's installed on them and they are bright. I know there are many opinions out there about AE lights but the consensus is if you want the brightest aftermarket AE then Orion v4 is the way to go. It will give you a very similar look and brightness to the new corona AE.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:09 AM
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I was just about to say that the don't look as bright. I want some that ate going to be like the new F10/E39 that are crazy bright in the daylight, so that I can use them as a daytime running light. I don't want to be limited to night like I am now.
I don't want to beat this to death, since I am not selling anything

But let's recap post #1 and post #4 on this thread.
Clearly you can see from post #1, my 20W Cree bulb on e60 is as bright if not slightly brighter than BMW original E92 angel-eyes (I like my E92 look alot, I thought you too). But maybe the outer ring on E60 is a bit dimmer due to poor optic, my guess is the inner ring is closer to the bulb.

Now post #4, it clearly the E53 X5 AE way brighter than my Cree 20W, BTW these pictures are taken from the same camera on the same day close in time to each other (no change in the weather etc).

The E53 AE comes with DEPO headlamp, some say they are Orion, some say no. So My point is I doubt you'll fine anything brigther than that anyway.
IMHO, they look a little ricey from being too bright (and I can say that since I am half Asian).
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:18 AM
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I would recommend you contact the guys at unmitza directly about angel eye options. If your trying to get them for your E39, call them because the owner also has a E39 with orion v2's installed on them and they are bright. I know there are many opinions out there about AE lights but the consensus is if you want the brightest aftermarket AE then Orion v4 is the way to go. It will give you a very similar look and brightness to the new corona AE.
Thanks for the info everyone. If I can recall, the oem non-halogen have a bluish/purplish tint, but may be my eyes. Those are so sweet. I am calling today! As for the ddmtuning hid . They worked for just over a year and one ballast is bad already.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:21 PM
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Of course I do not have any day pics, but here are the night ones. They are nowhere close to the pictures brightness.
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How would you say they compare to the Lux Angle Eyes. Brighter or about the same? Not sure if you have a comparison picture or experience with Lux.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:53 PM
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No experience with lux, but these were preinstalled in the housing. They are low quality led's in/behind the angel eye. They are like the bulb type where you just exchange that. A bit blue for my taste almost like 8000k compared to 6000k.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:23 PM
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How would you say they compare to the Lux Angle Eyes. Brighter or about the same? Not sure if you have a comparison picture or experience with Lux.
I am not claiming the bulbs I bought are equal to LUX, just looking at the aluminum housing and which Cree LED it has I belive mine is very competitive in quality and brightness.

Does LUX claim which Cree chip they use?

if LUX uses four Cree XT-E then yes the ones I bought (using Cree XB-D) would be slightly less bright than LUX. Remember there are no reflector in either ones thus the limiting factor would be derived from raw LED chip specifications; and either bulbs use 4 LEDs in 90-degree configuration each.

Again the ones I installed on E60 looks as bright if not brigther than original 2011 E92 BMW angel-eyes, can LUX claim to be brighter than F10/E92 2011 and up model angel eyes when installed on older LCI E60? (considering limiting optics here compare to newer BMW headlamps)?

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Old 02-07-2013, 07:10 PM
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All I know is it seems that everyone does their AE pics in the shade, garages or on overcast days. This is the lux v3 taken buy a iPhone 4S camera, middle of the day. I know that $250 is a bit much but I think I got what I paid for IMO.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:30 PM
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Mine was not for showing off purposes. I am very disappointed with mine which is why they are in the dark and still not that bright. I want brighter than those lux lol. I want the sun...exaggerating a bit. Those are nice though. Mine came with the wad light and are cheap junk IMO. Any other pics boo?
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i installed my Mtec lights today. Took me about 10 minutes to do and i love them. I havent got to check them out in day time yet but they are bright white and look great. Easy install all around im happy ill post pics as soon
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another comparo, head to head Lux vs 20W Cree H8.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=720849

disclaimer, I had no relation to this guy and the article was written in July 2012. the bulbs I bought looks exactly like that (without cancelling resitor pack just regulator pack so less thing to tuck in and no code). Also I know Cree XB-D LED chip was introduced by Cree in may 2012 so I don't doubt this bulb uses Cree XB-D as well.

Just telling people this is a bargain at the moment but next year my prediction is bulbs like this will be in $50 range. I am not trying to offend anyone just telling fellow E60ers on good deals when I see one.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:10 AM
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Just installed Cree 20W H-8 replacement LEDS in E60

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I usually don't go buy stuff from eBay since I got burn one too many times. But found this jewel in the haystack:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BMW-H8-4...932420&vxp=mtr

here comparison pictures to my 2011 E92 OEM angel eyes, hail to be the standrad for AE in terms of brightness, color temp and even look.

No code, and my HD radio reception is fine, no humming, no interference with TPMS.

They use 4 Cree LEDs XB-D to cover 360-degree dispersion, one of the latest from Cree silicon-carbide low cost bright LED. I suspect they use a simple buck-regulator to supply 12v (each LED is 3V and they configure in series) instead of DC-DC converter ala a single super-LED configuration that create problems with interference. The bulb housing is aluminum cast no machine for very low cost, but very well made with rubber gasket to keep moisture out, the XB-D is the lowest temp LED out there, between 55-85 F operating temp so the housing with fins is just fine as heat-sink.

I can't see spending more than these bulbs out there guys, the inside ring is brigther on E60 as usual but that's not the bulb it's the optic.

These are H8 bulbs so you need LCI E60 (2008 and newer) with OEM xenon headlamps.

Enjoy.
I just installed these per yer recs and I am pleased. I went from dull orange to white bright angel eyes. One H-8 bulb was stuck and shattered in the socket so I had to remove headlight assembly(25 minutes). The other twisted right out and I changed in 4 minutes on my 2008 535xi. Strange though, instructions called for counterclockwise twist and mine required clockwise twist to remove bulb????? It helps to have a small hand. I thought about asking my wife to do it
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It's all about the "heat" and not the "brightness".

How long do you want these LED's to last?

If you want more that 2 years, the heatsink sink design had better be very extensive.

LED's like it "cool", unlike halogens who like it "hot".

I own a 2005, 545i, and getting that headlight assembly out and forward is a BITCH!

IT IS NOT EASY.

But once I got the headlight assembly out of the "pocket" which is about 3" deep from the top of the front bumper, I still had to swap the OEM blub asesembly for the Mtec V3 assembly.

Over twice the size of OEM assembly in a very, very, tight space.

This is a job for somebody who has small fingers and a lot of patience and calm.

If you break that headlight assembly, it's over $1300 to replace on a heavy discount.
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Taking off the light assembly to switch out a broken bulb assembly took 25 minutes only because I had the most excellent Bently Publishers Service Manual. Nothing difficult, but it took me 15 minutes just to fiqure I had not taken out the correct bolt.

This was my first job on my car and I like the way things go together. I was so inspired I went right to moving the electronics out of the spare tire well. ( 10 min).
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These angel eye will blow away competition...

Which is the best and longest lasting, no error codes, low heat angel eyes for a decent price?
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If price no object, I'd go with DTEC-7, each bulb has eight Cree XT-E. I believe they are over $200 for a pair.

When I created this thread the brighthest at that time only uses four Cree XT-E in each bulb, mine uses four Cree XB-D and now can be had for less than $40 for a pair.
on eBay you can find genneration-2 generic bulbs with four XT-E LEDs in a bulb for under $80 for a pair.

this is what others here have bought on eBay and happy with (the seller claims seems to suggest this one uses four Cree XT-E LEDs per bulb)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321158259878

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Cree XT-E is better than Cree XB-D in terms of light output.
Also all bulbs are made in China for different US vendors.

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These angel eye will blow away competition...

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If price no object, I'd go with DTEC-7, each bulb has eight Cree XT-E. I believe they are over $200 for a pair.

When I created this thread the brighthest at that time only uses four Cree XT-E in each bulb, mine uses four Cree XB-D and now can be had for less than $40 for a pair.
on eBay you can find genneration-2 generic bulbs with four XT-E LEDs in a bulb for under $80 for a pair.

this is what others here have bought on eBay and happy with (the seller claims seems to suggest this one uses four Cree XT-E LEDs per bulb)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321158259878

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Cree XT-E is better than Cree XB-D in terms of light output.
Also all bulbs are made in China for different US vendors.
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If price no object, I'd go with DTEC-7, each bulb has eight Cree XT-E. I believe they are over $200 for a pair.

When I created this thread the brighthest at that time only uses four Cree XT-E in each bulb, mine uses four Cree XB-D and now can be had for less than $40 for a pair.
on eBay you can find genneration-2 generic bulbs with four XT-E LEDs in a bulb for under $80 for a pair.

this is what others here have bought on eBay and happy with (the seller claims seems to suggest this one uses four Cree XT-E LEDs per bulb)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321158259878

FYI:
Cree XT-E is better than Cree XB-D in terms of light output.
Also all bulbs are made in China for different US vendors.
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So on my bmw i have some 80$ LED angel eye I purchased on ebay. the bulb is H8. now my question is why hasnt anyone tried an H8 LED bulb to replace the original halogen H8 angel eye bulb with something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/S0BZ-1xCold-...0afb11&vxp=mtr

you would think would that many SMD LEDs it would be a lot brighter than the LED angel eye bulbs that they sell on ebay which only has like maybe 8 LEDs on each bulb?
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