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Old 05-17-2013, 07:24 PM
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Brake Dust?

Got my F02 about two weeks ago now and the worst by far has been all the brake dust, pretty impossible to keep the wheels even close to clean. Any tips or tricks to reduce this or an easy way to clean?

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Old 05-17-2013, 08:39 PM
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hmmm, this is really really strange... OK, so one of the worse things about all my past BMWs (E38 E39 E46) has been that horrible brake dust. I'm talking in 10 miles you've already got a gray coating and after 50, forget about it. However, on my F01, I can drive 300 miles and there's almost NO brake dust in comparison.

Is it new? Maybe you're just breaking in the pads and discs in which case more brake dust would be generated.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:45 PM
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This is actually my first BMW so the only thing I can compare it with is Cadillacs and Benzes and its worse in my experience. I have ran across other people on this forum saying the same thing so I assumed it was a regular issue.

The car is an 09 so not new, but new to me lol.
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Easy fix. Get Akebono ceramic brakes or another brand of your choice. You can get them from tire rack. I had this same problem drive me nuts. After switching, brake dust almost totally gone!!!
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:48 PM
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Easy fix. Get Akebono ceramic brakes or another brand of your choice. You can get them from tire rack. I had this same problem drive me nuts. After switching, brake dust almost totally gone!!!
Will look into it, thanks! Your car looks great btw!
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Will look into it, thanks! Your car looks great btw!
Thanks! Got new rims on the way....can't wait! :-)
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:57 PM
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This is actually my first BMW so the only thing I can compare it with is Cadillacs and Benzes and its worse in my experience. I have ran across other people on this forum saying the same thing so I assumed it was a regular issue.

The car is an 09 so not new, but new to me lol.
Yes in comparison, that makes sense--MB and Cad is probably bettery with that. Lexus also has pretty much no brake dust too. Raj's idea of going aftermarket would be a great choice, plus you might get better performance out of it!
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Brake Dust?

Don't need to even think about this topic....get the Akebonos. You can get them from tirerack or you can get the part numbers there and search amazon.

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Been discussed many times. The 2009 7 Series does NOT have Regenerative Braking (a la Hybrid cars). 2010-2013 have Regenerative brakes, and you can literally drive everyday for weeks, and there is almost no dust. My 2010 750i and 2012 ActiveHybrid 7 had the cleanest wheels of ANY German car, or European car. It was amazing. Yes, Akebono brakes are your only hope!!! Enjoy your car!!!
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Old 05-19-2013, 01:16 PM
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Thanks for all the advice guys, will look into doing that!

A bit off topic but while looking at the wheels today noticed a bump in the front drivers side tire, not huge about maybe half an inch. I know this is a bad sign and have heard people complain about it being an issue with the runflats. I've never owned runflats though so is this something I should replace right away or since its a run flat it can wait a bit?
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Old 05-19-2013, 01:40 PM
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Been discussed many times. The 2009 7 Series does NOT have Regenerative Braking (a la Hybrid cars). 2010-2013 have Regenerative brakes, and you can literally drive everyday for weeks, and there is almost no dust. My 2010 750i and 2012 ActiveHybrid 7 had the cleanest wheels of ANY German car, or European car. It was amazing. Yes, Akebono brakes are your only hope!!! Enjoy your car!!!
Ah, Deutsche, thanks for that info. That explains so much. It's really a crazy difference (at least between my older BMWs and this one). Hmmm, but I wonder, that does make replacing pads/discs any more difficult?
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Thanks for all the advice guys, will look into doing that!

A bit off topic but while looking at the wheels today noticed a bump in the front drivers side tire, not huge about maybe half an inch. I know this is a bad sign and have heard people complain about it being an issue with the runflats. I've never owned runflats though so is this something I should replace right away or since its a run flat it can wait a bit?
I'd replace it. I'm always super sensitive about tires since they're the only things connecting you to the ground and then only a few sq inches of it at any time. I'm really debating going with just normal tires though for next time.
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I'd replace it. I'm always super sensitive about tires since they're the only things connecting you to the ground and then only a few sq inches of it at any time. I'm really debating going with just normal tires though for next time.
Yeah that's what I'm debating on now, Michigan is filled with potholes so not sure if this tire makes any sense here.
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Chrisf02 mentioned he swapped it out and the car rides so much better (which I can only believe). I'm going to do it, I just need to figure out a reasonable backup of some sort since I sometimes go on trips and can be in the middle of nowhere.
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Thanks for all the advice guys, will look into doing that!

A bit off topic but while looking at the wheels today noticed a bump in the front drivers side tire, not huge about maybe half an inch. I know this is a bad sign and have heard people complain about it being an issue with the runflats. I've never owned runflats though so is this something I should replace right away or since its a run flat it can wait a bit?
It should be replaced right away....essentially the only thing holding that tire together is the sidewall. The first significant pothole you hit at a moderate speed will blow the tire at the spot. So happy that bought the wheel and tire package because I'm in New York. I've been through 5 tires and 2 wheels already!!!!!
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Just ordered the Akebono pads as i can't take the dust anymore . Next is tires, simply HATE these run flat tires .
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Don't need to even think about this topic....get the Akebonos. You can get them from tirerack or you can get the part numbers there and search amazon.

Seriously though just order them and your brake dust will be gone. This is an easy DIY.Attachment 377132Attachment 377133Attachment 377134


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You made me go and have this done! Picking my car back up tomorrow.

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Pics tomorrow please.
My stockers are back on because I was having my suspension re done and I'm also doing my car off at dealer to repair this oil pump whine. Don't want my good **** on while the car is being serviced.
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You made me go and have this done! Picking my car back up tomorrow.

To answer OP question... I have owned three Seven Series and they ALL have immediately gotten a set of Akebono Euro Ceramics!
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Glad I could inspire you! Brakes look great. It is amazing the difference it makes. Zero dust and clean wheels. Now I need some Vossens! By the way..I kept the Mtecs. I still get an error if they come on during the day but it quickly goes away. I will live with it for how much better the lights look.


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Glad I could inspire you! Brakes look great. It is amazing the difference it makes. Zero dust and clean wheels. Now I need some Vossens! By the way..I kept the Mtecs. I still get an error if they come on during the day but it quickly goes away. I will live with it for how much better the lights look.


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