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Old 02-05-2008, 10:50 PM
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Chinese made knock-off purses, I-phones, now Its BMW knock-off?

This shizz amazes me my lovely festers!

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Old 02-05-2008, 10:52 PM
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:13 PM
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All this type of copying is encouraged by the Chinese government, as they see it as supporting the local industries.

More than that, companies that tried to sue in china in the past lost the trial because the Chinese courts would not reward a win to the western company suing a chines company. So in essence, the Chinese government and courts allows local companies to copy anything from other countries.

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Old 02-06-2008, 12:30 AM
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Old 02-06-2008, 01:39 AM
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Right after high school, I went to a university and about a year later, I took some time off to pursue a business venture. Two years later I sold my shares and am now back in college. Where I belong...

Every single product that originated from our officer were (and still are) copied in China. Granted the manufacturing takes place in China but that is still no excuse. After a while, I ended up putting it into our business model, knowing that sooner or later each product would get "copied" or "duplicated".

I don't know why people are so surprised with this. We as consumer keep buying this crap. All of our products were engineered, quality/ safety tested, and sold with a warranty. Yet every product that our company sold (sells) was (is eventually) copied... with NO ENGINEERING (perhaps reverse engineering), INFERIOR QUALITY (which means NO SAFETY) and of course NO WARRANTY. As a vendor it was hard to watch your clients jump ship only to return a few months later, after realizing the difference. It was even harder to watch those who made the jump and as a result went under because so many of their products were returned.

In an ever increasing globalized market, I don't understand how China can get away with this with no repercussions from the business world. Perhaps, if they offend a large enough of a corporation with deep ties, then perhaps China will change the tune of their song. Or not .
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Old 02-06-2008, 04:46 AM
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Old 02-06-2008, 04:53 AM
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When it comes to copying stuff in Asia, you can't beat the Koreans and Chinese Copy SH** sells just as good as the original items do. There is a shop that rents from me (Tenant) they sell copy LV bags and other bags. They sell about $1K-3K a day. I think they average $2K a day and that is in USD. SH** makes good money
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the average city dwelling middle class chinese can't afford the real deal so there's a real market for knock-offs.
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I'll just drive by laughing at any chump driving one if they sell those POS's in the US.

Fools buy knockoffs...
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Old 02-06-2008, 10:30 AM
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When it comes to copying stuff in Asia, you can't beat the Koreans and Chinese Copy SH** sells just as good as the original items do. There is a shop that rents from me (Tenant) they sell copy LV bags and other bags. They sell about $1K-3K a day. I think they average $2K a day and that is in USD. SH** makes good money
And the irony to all this the same shop that makes the cheap knock offs, also makes the real LV bags. Often times, the sewers sit next to each other. We're suckers for branding, even for BMWs. Oh boy, here come the flames.
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the average city dwelling middle class chinese can't afford the real deal so there's a real market for knock-offs.
You don't understand. Chinese loves BMWs.

Edit: BMW's chairman Norbert Reithofer said: 'The Chinese market is very important for us.'

At present, BMW has a market share of 20 per cent in the premium luxury car segment.

China was a growing market, Reithofer said, adding, 'We believe that by 2020, the Chinese automobile market will be the world's biggest.'

In the first quarter of 2007, BMW sold 10,100 vehicles in China - an increase of 34 per cent over the same period last year. BMW wants to increase car sales of 126,000 in 2006 to 150,000 this year across Asia.

The five series was given a specially stretched chassis for the Chinese market, and had 'a very good launch'.

BMW presented Friday to reporters at the Shanghai Motor Show its vision of a combination between a four-door luxury Gran Turismo with a high-performance sports car in the Concept CS Friday at the as part of a world premiere.
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Serves BMW (and all other companies) right for outsourcing production to China. This is not a new problem - it's been well known for years. I remember Fortune had an article in detail several years ago about that. Brand name companies outsource to China, the Chinese first produce more than ordered and sell on the black market for pennies and then simply create offshoot brand which is 1:1 copy of the original. The government's behind it, and nobody can say anything to the offenders.

Where was BMW management when they decided to open a plant there, asleep at the wheel?
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:04 PM
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Do you get this kind of treatment buying a Camry in the US?

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So what is it to you that someone is driving a car that's an exact replica of your car, but costs 1/10th the money? If it is such a bother, buy the imitation.
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:14 PM
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As a vendor it was hard to watch your clients jump ship only to return a few months later, after realizing the difference. It was even harder to watch those who made the jump and as a result went under because so many of their products were returned.

In an ever increasing globalized market, I don't understand how China can get away with this with no repercussions from the business world. Perhaps, if they offend a large enough of a corporation with deep ties, then perhaps China will change the tune of their song. Or not .
The former, in bold, answers the latter, in bold.

What is the problem here? You're mad because somebody took your high quality, expensive product, replicated it, and turned it into a piece of sh.t, cheap product? Why?

The kinda people that buy cheap chinatown crap would never be able to afford the stuff from 5th ave. Likewise, the people that shop on 5th ave would never stoop so low as to wear Chinatown. Those two market segments do not intersect and can happily coexist. It boggles my mind when Gucci & Prada get their panties twisted because they saw an imitation of their $2k purse on Canal for $30 bucks. Why? Are they so insecure that they are threatened by this?? Such idiots. What exactly should happen? Get rid of all counterfeit vendors in Chinatown so that somebody would go there to buy a purse, find nobody and say, "Aw shucks, no purses for $40, I guess I'm just gonna go to 59th & 5th and get a me purse there."

Sometimes companies can be so ignorant of the things most fundamental, it's amazing, really.
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The CHinese had been copying products for generations. I saw a 'Jeep' in China long time ago, but something just didn't look right on this thing.
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