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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 02-02-2013, 05:17 PM
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Thumbs up X5M faster and better than Cayenne Turbo?

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Old 02-02-2013, 05:28 PM
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even the ML63 is faster than the Cayenne Turbo
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:52 PM
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I drove all the Cayennes variants before picking up an X5M. I wanted to like the Cayenne better since there isn't Porsche under our roof since the 997 TT departed - but the X5M provides more giggles per $ than the P cars.

I personally don't like the M's Sport transmission settings for anything but pure hooliganism, but C&D is right about the slightly too harsh ride. With non-runflat winter rubber all the harshness went away so I'm hopeful a good set of non-runflat summer tires will dial it in just right.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:06 PM
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Porsche already fixed this issue. Called the Cayenne Turbo S.

But in reality, I'd pick a Turbo over an X5M any day of the week.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:27 PM
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first generation cayenne is just ugly in every model... the interior is worse than the exterior. i tried really hard to like it, it rides very well, packs a punch but i just cant get over the interior... things were revised very well for the 2011+ models but still not enough to consider it as a viable option.

earwax interior with lumber jack package and star trek style steering wheel:



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Old 02-02-2013, 10:05 PM
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But in reality, I'd pick a Turbo over an X5M any day of the week.
Why?

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...ne-turbo-1.pdf

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Old 02-02-2013, 10:17 PM
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Porsche already fixed this issue. Called the Cayenne Turbo S.
My understanding is that the S only shaves 0.1 seconds off the 0-60.

So still slower than X5M by a lot.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:45 AM
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I drove a 12 Cayanne "new body style" twin turbo up the coast for a bit and it was a blast to drive
Hunkered down in The seat nice and low. Felt like a sports car to me. Was pretty darn fast.
Cockpit felt like an airplane
I was impressed w it overall. Felt less truck like than the M for me. Which was cool!
The M's transmission felt to rough for me
Like a muscle car
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:06 AM
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I felt the x5M was the best of the three German choices. I test drove all 3 and liked the x5M the most. Voted with my wallet and picked one up last month.
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first generation cayenne is just ugly in every model... the interior is worse than the exterior. i tried really hard to like it, it rides very well, packs a punch but i just cant get over the interior... things were revised very well for the 2011+ models but still not enough to consider it as a viable option.

earwax interior with lumber jack package and star trek style steering wheel:


I'm not talking about the old Cayenne Turbo S. Porsche just announced it at Detriot.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:21 AM
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Better build quality, handles better, better resale, etc. Porsche is in a different league. Just because the X5M is faster, doesn't mean it's better. If I'm dropping $100k+ on an SUV, it will have a Porsche crest on the front
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:46 AM
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earwax interior with lumber jack package and star trek style steering wheel:


LOL!!! Hilarious references; especially "lumber jack!!!!"
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:25 AM
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The steering wheel reminds me of triangle ufos
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:26 PM
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Better build quality, handles better, better resale, etc. Porsche is in a different league. Just because the X5M is faster, doesn't mean it's better. If I'm dropping $100k+ on an SUV, it will have a Porsche crest on the front
Many will pay a lot for that badge ! at least you know what your buying..to each his own
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:41 PM
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The new Mercedes GL looks much more impressive than a Cayenne turbo on the road.

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Old 02-03-2013, 12:45 PM
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GL63 looks great and the numbers are impressive.
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

The interior is a dramatic step up from the previous MB interiors.


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Old 02-03-2013, 12:47 PM
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Yes Mercedes said they wanted the new GL to be as luxurious as the S class
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:50 PM
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I think they hit the nail on the head. Even the new GLK (MB's entry level Crossover/SUV) has had some major revisions for 2013... MB in general has definitely improved majority of their line-up, maybe even all... The new E63 wagon specs are unreal. A family hauler wagon that does 0-60 in 3.4 secs? pretty impressive. Grocery getter that can get you to and from the grocery store in-between commercial breaks and in style.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:06 PM
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Porsche is going to last a lot longer and be cheaper.

Nobody would brave owning a x5m out of warranty.that and in 5 years its worth 15 grand.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:14 PM
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The CT and GL are not comparable. GL is heavy and long... weight wise 5700+ lbs. it compares to the RR Supercharged (pre 2013). The CT handles more like a sports car. The new GL is very nice inside, especially Designo version...We have a 2011 ML and it puts it to shame!

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Old 02-03-2013, 09:24 PM
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Better build quality, handles better, better resale, etc. Porsche is in a different league. Just because the X5M is faster, doesn't mean it's better. If I'm dropping $100k+ on an SUV, it will have a Porsche crest on the front
There is a big BIG difference between picking up an X5M and getting out the door for $95-98 vs the comparative P truckster...

Cayenne Turbo S
MSRP: $ 146,000.00

That's before some fun options I'm sure. Ouch.

I'll take the X5M anyday and save the rest for a 911 third staller.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:31 PM
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The Porsche is a much better build suv than the x5m. but is it fast than x5m NO, is it better than x5m YES. Is it worth it's price tag? depends.
Porsche has more options, more exclussive options, the options can be more than a X5m. check out the PDCC, PCTV, Burmester, PCCB etc...

it's like comparing a Nissan GTR and a Lamborghini, GTR is faster, more horsepower, might even corners better, it's a GREAT buy for that price, but if I can afford a lamborghini, it's gotta be the yellow bull.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:40 PM
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first generation cayenne is just ugly in every model... the interior is worse than the exterior. i tried really hard to like it, it rides very well, packs a punch but i just cant get over the interior... things were revised very well for the 2011+ models but still not enough to consider it as a viable option.

earwax interior with lumber jack package and star trek style steering wheel:


I think it's just personal preference, I own the last generation and current generation Cayenne, steering wheel reminds me of a woman's bikini, ha ha.
the X5 interior is not much better than Cayennes, my friend's 04 comes with CASETTE tape player?! the Navigations sucks!!!, my other friends x5 5.0 needs oil every 4000 miles.
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I think it's just personal preference, I own the last generation and current generation Cayenne, steering wheel reminds me of a woman's bikini, ha ha.
the X5 interior is not much better than Cayennes, my friend's 04 comes with CASETTE tape player?! the Navigations sucks!!!, my other friends x5 5.0 needs oil every 4000 miles.
A 2004? But, uhhhh, it's 2013 buddy...no hard feelins! Hahaha
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:12 PM
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is it better than x5m YES.
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