Spaghetti TIS?

Where did it go?? Where do I look for installation instructions for valve gasket?

Originally Posted by Vlad Dracul

Where did it go?? Where do I look for installation instructions for valve gasket?

Gone as of about 6-8 weeks ago. Looks like BMW made it go bye bye.

Search the net for a possible download copy for BMW TIS. You can by one off of Ebay fairly cheap. If you are going to buy a copy of TIS, you might as well go ahead & buy a copy of DIS, INPA, & TIS as a package, with the cable.

Can someone help me out with a shopping list of tools I will need for valve gasket job? Also, anything else that should be fixed while tending to this. All / any help appreciated.

You will need various metric sockets & wrenches, male & female torx sockets, & most likely a TIS for disassembly details. The center firewall partition, must be removed to get the valve covers enough clearance to be removed. There are 2 cam sensors on the rear of the valve covers that cost 400.00 a piece. The valve covers must be lifted straight up to prevent damage to these sensors. When you have the valve covers removed, look at the inside bottom of the valve covers. There are 2 tabs that have to be installed correctly. The tabs must be slid in place, by rolling the valve covers in from bottom to top. Replacement time will be between 6 to 10 hours per side! Replace all of the O-rings & gaskets that attach to anything. I would suggest that you change the top timing cover gaskets while the valve cover are removed. This will add 1 to 2 hours per side. You do not want to do this job twice. If the valve cover nuts seem to be to short on assembly, the valve cover has not been seated correctly. There are alot of tips to help shorten this job, but they are hard to explain. Search the 5, 6, & 7 series forums for helpful info. I have a lot of pics that I took, I just never did a DIY.

Let me know if you need some help!

Good Luck!

Originally Posted by HerbP

You will need various metric sockets & wrenches, male & female torx sockets, & most likely a TIS for disassembly details. The center firewall partition, must be removed to get the valve covers enough clearance to be removed. There are 2 cam sensors on the rear of the valve covers that cost 400.00 a piece. The valve covers must be lifted straight up to prevent damage to these sensors. When you have the valve covers removed, look at the inside bottom of the valve covers. There are 2 tabs that have to be installed correctly. The tabs must be slid in place, by rolling the valve covers in from bottom to top. Replacement time will be between 6 to 10 hours per side! Replace all of the O-rings & gaskets that attach to anything. I would suggest that you change the top timing cover gaskets while the valve cover are removed. This will add 1 to 2 hours per side. You do not want to do this job twice. If the valve cover nuts seem to be to short on assembly, the valve cover has not been seated correctly. There are alot of tips to help shorten this job, but they are hard to explain. Search the 5, 6, & 7 series forums for helpful info. I have a lot of pics that I took, I just never did a DIY.

Let me know if you need some help!

Good Luck!

That was a great reply good info, and to the point!!!

Originally Posted by HerbP

You will need various metric sockets & wrenches, male & female torx sockets, & most likely a TIS for disassembly details. The center firewall partition, must be removed to get the valve covers enough clearance to be removed. There are 2 cam sensors on the rear of the valve covers that cost 400.00 a piece. The valve covers must be lifted straight up to prevent damage to these sensors. When you have the valve covers removed, look at the inside bottom of the valve covers. There are 2 tabs that have to be installed correctly. The tabs must be slid in place, by rolling the valve covers in from bottom to top. Replacement time will be between 6 to 10 hours per side! Replace all of the O-rings & gaskets that attach to anything. I would suggest that you change the top timing cover gaskets while the valve cover are removed. This will add 1 to 2 hours per side. You do not want to do this job twice. If the valve cover nuts seem to be to short on assembly, the valve cover has not been seated correctly. There are alot of tips to help shorten this job, but they are hard to explain. Search the 5, 6, & 7 series forums for helpful info. I have a lot of pics that I took, I just never did a DIY.

Let me know if you need some help!

Good Luck!

One of the many reasons why I love this forum!

Originally Posted by HerbP

Search the net for a possible download copy for BMW TIS. You can by one off of Ebay fairly cheap. If you are going to buy a copy of TIS, you might as well go ahead & buy a copy of DIS, INPA, & TIS as a package, with the cable.

The spaghetti one was real convenient!

Just a side note for the TIS program...if you choose to purchase and install be aware that the TIS will only install on a 32 bit machine. If you run Windows 7 most likely it is 64 bit since most come that way. If this is the case you have to find an older computer with 32 bit XP, or run a Virtual Image within Win7 that has the XP OS.

I tried loading it as on my Win7 using compatibility, etc., did not work.

Originally Posted by 07 E63650i

One of the many reasons why I love this forum!

Yes, Herb is one of our resident DIY studs!

You can run it using VMware on a win7 pc just have to load XP on VMware shell.

That valve timing job - what parts are needed for that?

Indy place I go to quoted me $800 for valve job. Is that insanely cheap?

Originally Posted by Vlad Dracul

That valve timing job - what parts are needed for that?

The only additional parts needed would be 2 gaskets at 11.00 each. 800.00 for the valve covers & timing cover gaskets would be a fair price.

Resident Stud! My head is swelling!

Thanks for the complement!

Herb let it swell you are a resident stud !!!

LOL

If you are using Win7 64 you can download a VMware-like virtual PC package from Microsoft.

The XP Mode works fine with the TIS software once you install the package from Microsoft. Here is the link. Note this is different than compatibility mode which does not work with the TIS.

Originally Posted by Yorgi

If you are using Win7 64 you can download a VMware-like virtual PC package from Microsoft.

The XP Mode works fine with the TIS software once you install the package from Microsoft. Here is the link. Note this is different than compatibility mode which does not work with the TIS.

I already said that yorgi LOL you beat me to everything let me have this one please lol....

Our other resident stud is in the mix, Yorgi in the house!

We are all saying the same thing just different semantics, this is the third recommendation! Unfortunately Win7 Home Premium folks like me don't have XP Mode and it can't be downloaded, you have to pay for an upgrade. Windows 7 Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise have XP Mode which is the Virtual Image with XP pre-installed.

If you have Home Premium you will have to setup all of this manually, first the Virtual PC (standard Win7 OS application, may have to download), then you have to have a licensed copy of XP that you will load yourself. After all of this you can load the TIS.

Fortunately for me I pulled the XP OS off of my old decommisioned PC so it was not a problem. But TIS is dirt slow, it was so much easier to use the online version, I haven't logged into my PC TIS in a year

When and how do you actually reach resident stud status....lol !

Originally Posted by Nitrogen

When and how do you actually reach resident stud status....lol !

Ha ha, there are a lot of us who are helpful and know a bit, then there are the guys like Yorgi and Herb who have for years been tearing their BMW's apart and tackling repairs and can share firsthand insight into most jobs, large and small. Of course I only label these gyys with stud status after years of hanging around this board.

Don't worry, if you keep it up you will be upgraded from helpful DIY'r to stud! You are on your way...

Originally Posted by tampamark

Ha ha, there are a lot of us who are helpful and know a bit, then there are the guys like Yorgi and Herb who have for years been tearing their BMW's apart and tackling repairs and can share firsthand insight into most jobs, large and small. Of course I only proclaim this stud status after years of hanging around this board.

Don't worry, if you keep it up you will be upgraded from helpful DIY'r to stud! You are on your way...

Thanks Tampa this forum has become a way of life for me now.
I'm here to stay .... but I have yet to become a jedi master as yourself!!!

It is now time for a toast!

Cheers brother !