In your face F30 drivers!

Originally Posted by bear-avhistory

The major bitch I had with the interior is the nav screen stuck on top of the dash. Our X3 has the same thing & its not very attractive IMHO.

I do agree with this. My 09 328xi w/ iDrive built into the dash which I think is really stylish. The new navs look like their added on versus being part of the car. On the whole though? LOVE the F30 style.

I had an f30 loaner twice and was quite impressed with that engine. That car pulled like crazy. I wasn't too keen on the sound of it coming from my n54, but the little engine certainly does the trick. The smaller engine has less weight and keeps the car lighter in the front. When reading some initial road tests, many of the enthusiasts preferred the 4cyl 6MT over the equivalent 6cyl saying it was a better driver's car.

Seeing one comment from a magazine doesn't warrant a lousy thread like this bashing the new f30.

Originally Posted by unrealii

Seeing one comment from a magazine doesn't warrant a lousy thread like this bashing the new f30.

Eh, I don't think the thread is bashing so much as it's stirring up (what should have been) constructive conversation. Unfortunately, some people go into threads guns a'blazin vs. producing valid points and a fun debate. Everyone has their opinions I s'pose.

Originally Posted by unrealii

I had an f30 loaner twice and was quite impressed with that engine. That car pulled like crazy. I wasn't too keen on the sound of it coming from my n54, but the little engine certainly does the trick. The smaller engine has less weight and keeps the car lighter in the front. When reading some initial road tests, many of the enthusiasts preferred the 4cyl 6MT over the equivalent 6cyl saying it was a better driver's car.

Seeing one comment from a magazine doesn't warrant a lousy thread like this bashing the new f30.

Show me where I "bashed" the F 30.

I praised it several times, I just quoted C&D saying it would loose a comparo to the E90.

Also you can talk about the virtues of a turbo four all you want but some people (including me) will always prefer an inline six in a sports sedan, especially since BMW is legendary for such engines.

Originally Posted by BashedBarrique

Also you can talk about the virtues of a turbo four all you want but some people (including me) will always prefer an inline six in a sports sedan, especially since BMW is legendary for such engines.

Or a turbo 4 and an inline 6 could mate and you'd end up with a Volvo!

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

That's four months late. This was already posted four months ago. If you had used something called the search function(Which Kat has been so nicely to make a tutorial on) you would of known.

Give the guy a break, he drives a 2006 325 so he is used to being the last there.

[I hope nobody tells him that Peyton Manning left town.]

The turbo 4 in the F30 showed me the error of my ways. I have been a NA bigot my entire life, refused to ever consider owning a FI engine. Had a F30 for a week though and LOVED the engine. Pulls like crazy and is a ton of fun to drive.

It is not as smooth as an inline 6, but I can't say I even cared about that.

Originally Posted by MMME30W

Welcome to the fest.

Suggestion: Lurk more, post less.

Who, the f, is u?

Never seen you before. You got 12k posts, but where do you lurk. Certainly not in this subforum

Originally Posted by ///M-ratedE90

Give the guy a break, he drives a 2006 325 so he is used to being the last there.

[I hope nobody tells him that Peyton Manning left town.]

Peyton is gone? NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I was pretty upset until Andrew Luck eased the pain somewhat.

Yeah, the 325i isn't the fasted car I have owned, but it is one of the nicest. I have been reading the posts of guys that have upgraded the intake, exhaust and ECU of their 325i's to 330i specs. I may do that once I get the body straightened out.

Originally Posted by ///M-ratedE90

Give the guy a break, he drives a 2006 325 so he is used to being the last there.

[I hope nobody tells him that Peyton Manning left town.]

Clearly the guy needs driving lessons from a Furball. Sounds like a great reason to show up to C2C event!

Follow the Furball to learn how to drive

On a side note, I see this thread more of a "hey e90, yea you are an older model, but feel good, lots of people still prefer you". Like a 40 year old woman being told she is still attractive to some men

Originally Posted by furby076

Who, the f, is u?

Never seen you before. You got 12k posts, but where do you lurk. Certainly not in this subforum

Yeah, quite the welcome from MMME30W. It's always a nice way to welcome some one by telling them to shut up.

Originally Posted by BashedBarrique

Yeah, quite the welcome from MMME30W. It's always a nice way to welcome some one by telling them to shut up.

Hello and Welcome

Now pics of your ride or it didn't happen

Originally Posted by BashedBarrique

The N20 is certainly a technological advance over the N51/N52/N53/N54 series engines. But there is something to be said for the "soul" of a car. I fear that there may soon come a day when even the mighty M3 is whirring along with a (gasp) electric motor (no internal combustion engines allowed thank you CO2 boy).

Will it be faster and more efficient? Surely. Will something be lost?

For those of us that have petroleum in our veins and revere the sound of a naturally aspirated inline six, V8 or even V12 engine, the answer is ABSOLUTELY!

Did you read the entire CD article? They praise the N20 engine. Here's what they had to say: "the BMW's 2.0-liter offers one long uninterrupted flow from the torque peak at 1250 rpm to redline. The fuel cutoff is past seven grand, and the engine sounds and feels like it's aiming for nine."

While it may not be a sonorous as the I6 N52, it's better in every other way. And I drive an E90 328i with MT.

Part of the feelings towards 4, is saying "I have 4" vs "I have 6". Bigger numbers sound more impressive, and typically are more impressive. Imagine they put the technology of the F30 4 cyl, into an F30 6 cyl. We know why they went down to a 4. Also, some of the engine note is made through artificial paths. Also, BMW and turbos..... well lots of people are familiar with those woes.

Originally Posted by furby076

Hello and Welcome

Now pics of your ride or it didn't happen

Furby, You can see pics here:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...=673663&page=5

Originally Posted by furby076

Hello and Welcome

Now pics of your ride or it didn't happen

Thanks for the welcome furby!

Several photos of my (slightly bruised) 2006 325i are in the "2006 325i died 30 miles after purchase!" thread but here's a couple more.

Originally Posted by Michael Schott

Did you read the entire CD article? They praise the N20 engine. Here's what they had to say: "the BMW's 2.0-liter offers one long uninterrupted flow from the torque peak at 1250 rpm to redline. The fuel cutoff is past seven grand, and the engine sounds and feels like it's aiming for nine."

While it may not be a sonorous as the I6 N52, it's better in every other way. And I drive an E90 328i with MT.

Hi Michael,

Yep, I read the entire article and if you read all of my above posts you will see that I noted that C&D praised the engine. I also posted that I have two 4 cyl sports cars that I love so I have nothing against a great 4 cylinder engine.

I just also like the smoothness and sound of an inline six and hate to see the 3 series lose what I consider to be one of it's greatest features.

I also said that I was certain that the F30 was a great car overall.

I just wanted to start a conversation about the changes and have a little fun. It's hard to judge tone on a web post, so I think some people misinterpreted my intentions.

Originally Posted by BashedBarrique

I just wanted to start a conversation about the changes and have a little fun. It's hard to judge tone on a web post, so I think some people misinterpreted my intentions.

That's how I took it but, with tone lost, sometimes you get this:

N20 is a nice powerplant compared to other euros. Take the MB I4 (250 moniker). Makes barely 200hp and that little thing is going in $50k+ autos.:what:

Sent from my MB525 using Bimmer App

Originally Posted by furby076

Part of the feelings towards 4, is saying "I have 4" vs "I have 6". Bigger numbers sound more impressive, and typically are more impressive. Imagine they put the technology of the F30 4 cyl, into an F30 6 cyl. We know why they went down to a 4. Also, some of the engine note is made through artificial paths. Also, BMW and turbos..... well lots of people are familiar with those woes.

If I bought a F30, I would just lie and tell everybody it has a 6.

I've been lying about 4 being 6 for years now. So, no reason to stop at this point.

Originally Posted by furby076

Who, the f, is u?

Never seen you before. You got 12k posts, but where do you lurk. Certainly not in this subforum

Llando88 ring a bell?

You know, former moderator of Poli Sci, OT, X3, E46, E90 forums?

Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout

If I bought a F30, I would just lie and tell everybody it has a 6.

I've been lying about 4 being 6 for years now. So, no reason to stop at this point.

No need to lie just get a 335i F30

Originally Posted by lqaddict

No need to lie just get a 335i F30

Either way, the size of the engine probably doesn't matter as long as I have forced induction.

Originally Posted by Michael Schott

Did you read the entire CD article? They praise the N20 engine. Here's what they had to say: "the BMW's 2.0-liter offers one long uninterrupted flow from the torque peak at 1250 rpm to redline. The fuel cutoff is past seven grand, and the engine sounds and feels like it's aiming for nine."

While it may not be a sonorous as the I6 N52, it's better in every other way. And I drive an E90 328i with MT.

I totally agree. It may not be smooth as butter, but the N20 is every bit a BMW engine.

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