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Old 07-13-2009, 10:20 AM
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Help- abs, traction (4x4), and brake lights are all on (05 x3 3.0 auto)

Hi everyone,

The abs, traction and brake lights have come on on my car. It drives perfectly normal like before, the lights came on then went away after a few days, then came back a few days later. Now when I turn the car off, I get clicking noises from under the front of the car. Does anyone have any idea what this could be? I'm a broke college student so hopefully I can fix this myself...Please help!
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:46 AM
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Without any other information or seeing the X3, it is hard to diagnose things like this. But first you should try a "battery reset" to see if the problem will clear. Bascially, the process is this:
  • Turn off the headlights to reduce battery drain. (Do not leave the switch in the "A" position; turn it fully off.)
  • Disconnect one of the battery cables. I use an insulated 10mm wrench on the positive terminal.
  • Count to 10 or so. You want to give everything a chance to discharge.
  • Reconnect the battery.
  • Restart the X3.
At this point many or all the warning lights will come on. If there is nothing major at fault, all the lights will slowly clear--one after the other--as you gently drive around the block. Then reset the clock, and you are all set.

If this works, you can start to worry about the underlying cause. In my case (a 2008), the condition recurred every couple of thousand miles. It was eventually traced to a faulty radio-CD player. The dealer installed a rebuilt unit, and the problem has never come back.

Good luck.
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Old 07-13-2009, 11:25 AM
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Thank you so much for your detailed response. I will try this when I get out of work.

Any more tips?
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Old 07-13-2009, 01:06 PM
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Thank you so much for your detailed response. I will try this when I get out of work.

Any more tips?

Make sure you have the anti-theft code to your radio before disconnecting the battery.
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Old 07-13-2009, 01:22 PM
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Make sure you have the anti-theft code to your radio before disconnecting the battery.
X3 radios (at least the factory ones in in my '04 and '08) do not need codes.
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Old 07-13-2009, 01:34 PM
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X3 radios (at least the factory ones in in my '04 and '08) do not need codes.

Interesting. Although I have never used it, they provided a card that has the AT code on it with mine.
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:19 PM
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Interesting. Although I have never used it, they provided a card that has the AT code on it with mine.
It seems that code printed on the card is useful only in Europe.
It acts as a serial no. you can quote to the poliza if your radio is stolen.

(Around here, I think it is only aftermarket radios that get lifted out of cars.)

I can confirm that you do not need the code after battery disconnection.
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:54 PM
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Thanks guys for the tips. I am about to disconnect my battery right now and hopefully the light goes and stays away
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Old 07-13-2009, 03:49 PM
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Well that didn't work, the 4x4 light is still on.

Anybody else???
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Old 07-13-2009, 06:40 PM
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There was a post recently with the same symptoms:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=378321

Not sure if it means a whole DSC module needs replacing - hopefully just a relay or small servo motor has gone bad, and is not too expensive parts-wise or labor.

It may be only the dealer's GT1 computer that detects a code for this.
But if you don't feel that drivability is affected, maybe just running in RWD mode, you could take your time to check around on your options.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:43 PM
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My '06 did the same thing a couple of months ago. Drove it to Mass in that condition. When we came out to leave and started it up everything was OK.
Not saying it was Divine Intervention but I'll accept it nonetheless.
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Old 07-15-2009, 09:28 AM
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Hopefully I get some of that divine intervention haha. Nonetheless, the 4x4 light is still on and it feels like nothing is affected at all, the clicking noise on shut down even went away.
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:34 PM
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It sounds like you have a wheel sensor that is going bad. It happens to mine once or twice every winter when I first start driving when there is snow or ice on the ground. Try this tip that I got from a local BMW mechainic. Start your engine then turn your steering wheel to the limits both right and left, turn off and then restart. This always clears my DSC, ABS and 4X4 lights when they come on. Hope this helps. Cheers.
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:30 PM
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That didn't work. I guess I'll just drive without traction for a while since I'm a broke college kid lol. Do I really need it anyways?
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:36 PM
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Are you out of warranty now? If not, just take it to dealer. Even if you are, and being 2005 X3 mean not for very long, I'd still call them and try to get it under their "goodwill repair".
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:20 AM
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I did'nt buy the car at any of the local dealers so I doubt they care.
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:25 PM
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hate to inform you but you are in for a BIG repair. The clicking noise is a stripped gear in the transfer case. I had these lights come on and then BINGO the clicking began when I turned the car off.

It's being repaired now, but the mechanic can't get the lights to go off and BMW says the three lights should go off when the case was replaced. Good thing that I took out that extended warranty because this would have been extremely costly without it. Oh and I've been without my vehicle for two weeks as they couldn't find the part (rare that these break according to BMW and the mechanic).

I am curious if the resetting the battery would work too. May call them and tell them to try it.
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Old 08-25-2009, 12:19 PM
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The clicking noise has gone away completely...
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Old 08-29-2009, 09:46 AM
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Yep I had that noise under the hood as well. I'll start from the begining as to maybe help someone who has experienced the same thing I have. I had the " terrible triad" of lights, ABS, Brake and 4X4, on once or twice a year for the last 2 years. Always in winter and always on snow. Turn the car off and presto, lights off no worries. Anyways, this last month my car started hesitating going up a small incline, kinda felt like the engine was missing, then the terrible triad of lights would appear. Once the lights came on, I experienced no more hesitating from the engine. I would pull over, turn the car off and I started hearing that clicking sound. Restart the car, lights off, all good until I started to drive off. I would feel a little shimmy, very slight miss frim the back of my car, yep sure enough, terrible triad of lights would come back on. I did everything listed to try and fix the issue, battery reset, clean the wheel sensors, steering sensor ect. Finally, I had a neighbor come over with his scan tool and he discovered I was throwing the code: 5F3A - transfer case malfunction. Son of a...... I started doing a lot of research on this code and discovered that is was the transfer case actuator motor. An $800 dollar part and would require 4 hours labor, for a total of $1,200.00. Not bad considering I was bracing myself for a new transfer case or gear box. Got the car fixed, drives like a dream again. Hope that helps. I now have 110,000 miles on this beauty and this has been the only "fix" I have ever had to do. Love this car!!!
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:01 AM
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Thanks a lot Rock for the explanation!! That definitely helped.
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:56 AM
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I have all of those lights coming on but it drives normal, no clicking or missing. hmmmmmmm. Thinking of taking it in, wonder if the transfer case problems would be covered under CPO?
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Old 09-20-2010, 10:52 AM
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I have all of those lights coming on but it drives normal, no clicking or missing. hmmmmmmm. Thinking of taking it in, wonder if the transfer case problems would be covered under CPO?
It would be covered for your $50 deductible!
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:09 PM
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Well these 3 lights together can mean anything with the 4x4 system... Most likely its still running in the 60/40 split rear to front BUT it will not transfer r back and forth or use any of the stabilizing actions in bad conditions. Anyway, what I would so is have the dealer hook it to the computer let them tell you what's wrong and u can let a mechanic fix it instead.
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Old 09-22-2010, 01:48 PM
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Was the transfer case, whole thing replaced, and covered under CPO!
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:36 PM
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What is CPO?
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