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Old 02-15-2013, 07:16 PM
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The doubt is really simple. We all own E36ers and know exactly how fast or slow they are.

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yes that would make sense but they are stock i dont understand the doubtfulness of my car i will find a way to put on the video if i can figure out how. stock rims just headers dual ram air custom setup and exhaust. pretty quick i believe for a 2.5. thats why i wanted a dual exhaust but it seems not to be possible with the clearance
I know a thing or two about computers and I know why you cannot upload your video. Ready? This might come as a shock, but a video has to exist before you can upload it to YouTube. I know this seems like an unreasonable limitation in the 20th century, but it just cannot be done. Right now only place that take imaginary videos is imaginary YouTube in imagination land. Where you imaginary car does not to 60 5.6 seconds and your posts have capital letters and periods in the right place.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:09 PM
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well, i don't use caps, seldom proper grammer, fly kites in rainstorms, and *still* can't get cadence to go that fast.


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Old 02-15-2013, 08:14 PM
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Joe asked so that you'd have the benefit of doubt. With larger circumference tires your speedometer would show a faster speed than you're actually travelling because it would show the speed based on the rotation of smaller circumference stock wheels, which is what your speedometer is calibrated for.

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You got it bassackwards Ed. A smaller circumference would show faster speed than normal, not a larger one. Larger circumference = fewer revs per mile= lower indicated speed.
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I think the real issue is he doesn't understand that egg timers are in increments of minutes, not seconds.
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well, i don't use caps, seldom proper grammer, fly kites in rainstorms, and *still* can't get cadence to go that fast.

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Old 02-16-2013, 03:55 PM
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There has to be more to it than that. There is no way BMW would use a more restrictive exhaust on the 328 and M3 than on the 323. Virtually everyone (except Hawken) has said that the 328 and M3 exhausts flow much better .
328i/M3 mid section is horrible for flow, converters are only 3 inch wide and there is almost 90 degree angle before them, pipe is only about 1.6 inch wide under the two small resonators after rear 02 sensors. This exhaust was built in mind for quietness and emissions and S52 only makes 240hp, it is not a jet engine. 1995 maxima SE with 3.0L engine makes 230hp and it only has 2 inch exhaust pipe all the way back.

323i exhaust is a single pipe and has bigger single catalytic converter, and the exhaust probably flows as good as 328i duals and weights less.
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^Where is your proof? Anyone can post on the internet that the 328 cats are only 3 inches wide, but it does not make it true. If you want people to believe what you are saying, then you must show us evidence that backs up your 328 exhaust size clams. Then you must also provide us with reliable 323 exhaust numbers.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:39 PM
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Dual ram air : @ 60mph will generate approx 0.5 pounds of pressure. 0.5 pounds = approx 5 horse power... What this means is that in a best case scenario your dual ram air is only creating "boost" from 50 mph up and it will not be at a point where it would effectively expidite your 0-60 time. Ram air was a marketing tool created by american car makers in the 1960s to differentiate sport models. In theory it is effective but as far as it being a major producer of hp it is not really useful. I dont doubt that your car is nice. However you are stating that your 20 year old executive sports sedan with a 100k mile + motor and autotragic trans is faster than a manual Porsche boxter. The math just isnt there. Plus these crazy ass weirdos in the e36 forums know more than you do. They know more than me as well.
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all I can really do is laugh at some of the posts on this forum. First off my car is a 2 door convertible not a 20 year old executive sedan. A have raced my 2008 lexus rx350 we have against my 323i. Keep in mind that her car does 5.8 to 60 believe it or not it does. So we had a race and we were neck and neck I was pulling a little but not by a lot. Long story short you guys are really funny and if I could drive my car over there myself to show you guys I would. it seems hard to believe with all your bs remarks. I must really have a "magic" 323i black convertible! And yes my dual intake does produce good air flow and I agree with you that it produces more air flow at higher speeds vs a dead stop but the way I created it makes more air flow. Its 3 inch pipes up to my MAF. My math might not be there but when my right foot goes down, it seems to be. and I saw a new ford mustang with a cold air intake and it got around 15 hp. I have a lot more than 5 hp I can tell you that. My car did im assuming like 7.3 to 60 stock. it now does roughly 5.8.

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Old 02-17-2013, 02:39 PM
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all I can really do is laugh at some of the posts on this forum. First off my car is a 2 door convertible not a 20 year old executive sedan.
Being a convertible adds weight.

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A have raced my 2008 lexus rx350 we have against my 323i. Keep in mind that her car does 5.8 to 60 believe it or not it does.
A Lexus rx 350 0 to 60 time is 6.7 seconds.

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and I saw a new ford mustang with a cold air intake and it got around 15 hp. I have a lot more than 5 hp I can tell you that.
Your cars engine is nothing like a mustang engine. With an m52 engine it is nearly impossible to get good HP gains without spending $1000s on engine parts or going for a turbo.

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My car did im assuming like 7.3 to 60 stock. it now does roughly 5.8.
Brand new your car only did 0 to 60 in 9.6 seconds.
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Old 02-17-2013, 03:19 PM
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yes it might say that but I have a video to 60 in 5.8, How about you race one you will be surprised. I understand that your 323is posted above might be slow and I am sorry. I even went as far as to take my 0-60 and match it with a stock 97 m3 and he hit 60 about the same time. So you guys can laugh and bull**** about your technical knowledge but its the truth. im going to make a youtube account just to post the video soon. I did a down hill video too and it did 60 in 4.6. and you guys can doubt me but il get the last laugh when you see the video
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How about you race one you will be surprised.
How about I race one? I own the faster 323is.

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I understand that your 323is posted above might be slow and I am sorry.
The 323is 0 to 60 time is 7.9 seconds. The 323ic 0 to 60 time is 9.6 seconds. So my car is faster than yours.

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im going to make a youtube account just to post the video soon.
Why dont we do that? Everyone here knows that your car can do not to 60 in 5.8 seconds, so that video of your car doing not to 60 in 11 seconds should be a good laugh.
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Why don't we do that? Everyone here knows that your car can do not to 60 in 5.8 seconds, so that video of your car doing not to 60 in 11 seconds should be a good laugh.[/QUOTE] you stated<<<

honestly do you really think that I would be on this forum to bs you. If you want we can race and you will be surprised regardless if your car is stick or not. really when I got my car it did like 7.3 so therefore stock I would beat you . I will show you then you can bs me it does 5.8 In the video im posting hell match it up to the 97 m3 stock on youtube if you want and his revs higher too!

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honestly do you really think that I would be on this forum to bs you.
Yes, yes I do.

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If you want we can race and you will be surprised regardless if your car is stick or not.
Ok, I will race you and then I will beat you. I only live like two hours from you. I just have to finish painting my car and then I will be ready any time.
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I really don't think you would want to waste your time just to drive over and lose. If you want I can sent you a video I took like a couple weeks ago to your email just to show you. and zegerman you still don't believe me but ill send it to you too if u want. but if ou want to meet we can race any way I don't care
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I really don't think you would want to waste your time just to drive over and lose. If you want I can sent you a video I took like a couple weeks ago to your email just to show you. and zegerman you still don't believe me but ill send it to you too if u want. but if ou want to meet we can race any way I don't care
POST the video on YouTube, then post the link here. This nonsense about emailing it to individuals is crap.
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I don't have a youtube account so I will have to make one so as to the guy who wants to see it ill will send it to. & dude 9.6 stock maybe for a 318 I lol
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I really don't think you would want to waste your time just to drive over and lose...
but if ou want to meet we can race any way I don't care
Fine, I will PM you as soon as my car is done.


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dude 9.6 stock maybe for a 318 I lol
Nope, a 318i can do not to 60 in 11.3 seconds.
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op has 323ic with headers and ram air intake....

reduces 0-60 times from 9.x seconds to 5.6...no, sorry, make that 5.8 seconds.

no other mods mentioned.

hmmm....insists this is accurate, but is not sure how to post a vid that he has.


but then will send it directly to doubters via e-mail.



yeah, right.....


temoc 2.0, the reboot!!!





i seriously doubt that this would be possible because if the 'ram air' intake made *that* much of a difference in our chassis. if it were to be so, don't you think that companies like turner and such would have versions designed way better than any diy'er could come up with.

not to mention bmw would be losing //M sales...

and schrick wouldn't be able to sell any more camshafts....






so, no....i do not believe any of this at all.




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If you could get a nearly stock 323 convertible (heavy as hell) to do 0-60mph in the same time as an M3, nobody would have ever purchased an M3, nor would BMW have built them. Dude is retarded.

"Dual ram air", yo! Good for like 75hp!!
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