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E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 02-18-2013, 08:16 AM
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BMW NAV .. does it have a setting to give speed limit

I am used to a Garmin where it shows what is the allowed speed limit in the location. Does the BMW NAV have such a feature. I could not find it anywhere ...

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Old 02-18-2013, 08:40 AM
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I am used to a Garmin where it shows what is the allowed speed limit in the location. Does the BMW NAV have such a feature. I could not find it anywhere ...

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Old 02-18-2013, 10:20 AM
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:12 AM
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You get the speed limit on the newer F chassis BMWs with the HUD.
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:43 PM
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iPhone 5 google maps App (and it talks) is way way better that BMW Navi.
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:42 PM
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I was about to say the F chassis have them.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:34 AM
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The X5 Nav doesn't even know its way around, it certainly can't work out what the speed limit is! iPhone, iPad mini or a cheap Garmin Nuvi is much better. I don't know why car manufacturers bother with Nav. They should just make an iPad Mini docking station for navigation, BT audio etc.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:57 AM
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Why I went with the BMW NAV as I wanted Heads up display and that can only be had with the BMW NAV.

Another issue, garage door openers are alos only available with the BMW Premium Package in the 35D. Now hindsight I should have saved money by not getting any options.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:43 PM
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They should just make an iPad Mini docking station for navigation, BT audio etc.
I said the same thing on another BMW Nav thread a few days ago. I think this will happen in a few years.
Just snap in the iPad mini into the center dash and you have Siri to handle the voice commands to adjust just about everything in the car.

But I wonder if the docking system will accept Samsung or other tablets as well. They would need some sort of standardizing on connection.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:36 PM
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BMW's NAV is pretty good when compared to the others out there, but it does not show speed limits. Lame, if you ask me.

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Old 02-19-2013, 06:03 PM
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Which speed limits would you like to see? The limit which is stored in a database, which may be years out of date? Or the real time speed limit, which may change due to road construction, driving conditions, etc.?

It is my understanding that the system BMW introduced on the F30 (which presumably will become available on the LCI F10 and the new X5) uses a camera to optically read speed limit signs. To my way of thinking, that is infinitely more useful than a "stale" speed limit read off a DVD or HD. So I would say the latest BMW Nav will be far superior to a Garmin in that regard.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:09 PM
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Which speed limits would you like to see? The limit which is stored in a database, which may be years out of date? Or the real time speed limit, which may change due to road construction, driving conditions, etc.?

It is my understanding that the system BMW introduced on the F30 (which presumably will become available on the LCI F10 and the new X5) uses a camera to optically read speed limit signs. To my way of thinking, that is infinitely more useful than a "stale" speed limit read off a DVD or HD. So I would say the latest BMW Nav will be far superior to a Garmin in that regard.
The NAV in my wife's new Q5 uses Google Earth maps with accurate speed limits — real-time from the Cloud — that is the future. Of course, it costs us $30/month for the SIM card.

DVD- or HD-based is outdated.

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Old 02-19-2013, 10:22 PM
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BMW's NAV is pretty good when compared to the others out there, but it does not show speed limits. Lame, if you ask me.

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Out of curiosity, which other GPS system do you think are worse than the BMW system. I find the BMW display to be superb; however, I have never experienced a GPS in recent years with worse accuracy, routing, or points of interest. Case in point, The BMW Nav has all of the city parks in Wisconsin in the database, but none of the State parks or recreation areas.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:43 PM
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Out of curiosity, which other GPS system do you think are worse than the BMW system. I find the BMW display to be superb; however, I have never experienced a GPS in recent years with worse accuracy, routing, or points of interest. Case in point, The BMW Nav has all of the city parks in Wisconsin in the database, but none of the State parks or recreation areas.
I have the Infiniti flagship in my driveway this week, an $80,000 '13 QX56, and its NAV looks about 5 years behind in display quality and user interface. I also don't like the NAV in GM products. Chrysler/Jeep use a Garmin-based system that is okay. Volkswagen's system is frustrating, and I don't like it (often can't zoom out far enough). Mercedes-Benz is okay, but the COMAND interface is difficult. I honestly put BMW's NAV and iDrive up with the best... but I have learned to not rely on NAV for perfect instruction (I always double-check against my iPhone or iPad first).

Oh, a few more... Aston Martin's system is archaic (really bad) even though it was just updated this year (now GARMIN-based, but horrible user interface). Bentley, Lamborghini and Bugatti use Audi's system... but not all the current Google-enabled generation (oddly enough). Porsche's system is pretty good. Rolls-Royce uses a version of BMW's.

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Old 02-20-2013, 08:09 AM
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The NAV in my wife's new Q5 uses Google Earth maps with accurate speed limits — real-time from the Cloud — that is the future.
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Except that when the Chinese hackers take over the Cloud, your system won't work, but the optical image-recognition BMW system will.

When we are both fleeing the melting-down nuclear powerplants and your hacked Q5 tells you the speed limit on the interstate is 30 mph, please stay out of the left lane so I can zip bye, okay?
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:09 AM
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Except that when the Chinese hackers take over the Cloud, your system won't work, but the optical image-recognition BMW system will.

When we are both fleeing the melting-down nuclear powerplants and your hacked Q5 tells you the speed limit on the interstate is 30 mph, please stay out of the left lane so I can zip bye, okay?
Every car will use Cloud-based NAV in the next decade... in fact, I would bet most of the functions done by the ECU will be controlled remotely. The eventual goal is to make the automobile a "thin client" (for lack of better description) so they are less likely to become obsolete and automakers are able to constantly push updates to everyone.

This is all the engineers speak about.

I don't follow posted speed limits, so you have nothing to worry about.

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Old 02-20-2013, 10:56 PM
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Don't think I will be a fan of Cloud-based, if information flows both ways. What is going to prevent BMW from uploading real time information from my vehicle? Like having the world's biggest red light camera or speed camera watching over me from the Cloud?

And imagine what the impact would be on the tuning industry. Forget about piggy backs, or erasing your tracks before you go in for service. Big Brother is watching you 24/7, and he knows what boost you are running in real time.

Late on a lease payment? How about BMWFS telling the cloud to put you into limp home mode. Post something derogatory about the brand on a forum? Yikes, you are really screwed.

How about if BMW needs to raise its CAFE standards, and "pushes" you into Eco Pro mode?

Think bots are bad? How about if the Cloud acts like one big tracking cookie, and the car tells it where you buy gas, groceries, fast food, etc. so advertisers can REALLY target you in real time. Car parked but the suspension rocking? How about if the Cloud turns on the microphone and records the romantic interlude you are having with your girlfriend, boyfriend, or streetwalker?

Nope. No Cloud in my car, thank you.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:03 PM
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Don't think I will be a fan of Cloud-based, if information flows both ways. What is going to prevent BMW from uploading real time information from my vehicle? Like having the world's biggest red light camera or speed camera watching over me from the Cloud?

And imagine what the impact would be on the tuning industry. Forget about piggy backs, or erasing your tracks before you go in for service. Big Brother is watching you 24/7, and he knows what boost you are running in real time.

Late on a lease payment? How about BMWFS telling the cloud to put you into limp home mode. Post something derogatory about the brand on a forum? Yikes, you are really screwed.

How about if BMW needs to raise its CAFE standards, and "pushes" you into Eco Pro mode?

Think bots are bad? How about if the Cloud acts like one big tracking cookie, and the car tells it where you buy gas, groceries, fast food, etc. so advertisers can REALLY target you in real time. Car parked but the suspension rocking? How about if the Cloud turns on the microphone and records the romantic interlude you are having with your girlfriend, boyfriend, or streetwalker?

Nope. No Cloud in my car, thank you.
Hey, I didn't vote for our current president.

This is the future, and it does suck for us enthusiasts.

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Old 02-21-2013, 06:18 AM
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It is my understanding that the system BMW introduced on the F30 (which presumably will become available on the LCI F10 and the new X5) uses a camera to optically read speed limit signs. To my way of thinking, that is infinitely more useful than a "stale" speed limit read off a DVD or HD. So I would say the latest BMW Nav will be far superior to a Garmin in that regard.
The 5-series already have that, you don't need to wait for the LCI to get it. My 2013 550 has it.

When I pass a speed limit sign, it takes about .5 second to read & display. Amazing!
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:37 AM
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Awesome.. the X5 gets the shaft on technology and features
The next X5 will likely have it, if the F10 has it now.

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Old 02-21-2013, 11:26 PM
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Speed Limit info has been available in other markets, working in the same way as the option in current F-series models. It relys on both a camera with sign recognition and a database on the sat nav, with the former overriding the latter should there be a conflict (variable speed limits due to congestion, weather, construction). However, it was never offered in the North American market.

I have the Speed Limit info on my smartphone (Nokia E6) which has the maps/navigation, I find it really helpful even when I have it set to metric units.

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My favorites (in no order):

BMW
Audi
Porsche
Lamborghini
Bugatti
Bentley
Rolls-Royce
Chrysler/Jeep

My dislikes (in no order):

Volkswagen
Mercedes-Benz
Nissan/Infiniti
General Motors

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I agree with this post 100x. I'm a geek when it comes to these things. The VW and Mercedes systems are terrible. The Nissan/Infiniti system feels outdated and the Acura/Honda knob system isn't ver intuitive at all.

Even though the routing is crap, iDrive is near the top with Audi MMI up there too.
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:05 PM
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I wonder how hard it would be for BMW to just dump the in-dash NAV and leave the screen. Extend BMW Apps out to Android also, and pipe GPS data from your iPhone/Android to the bigger screen. GM is doing this with the new Chevy MyLink system in the new Sonic. Very cool because it relies on the smartphone for GPS, etc, while it routes on the in dash screen.

Nothing beats Google Maps Navigation.
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