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Old 02-23-2013, 09:40 PM
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Which brand of Premium Fuel to use?

So we all know superior performance engines, like the ones in our bimmers, need superior fuel. Which brand of fuel is considered superior enough for our cars? How do we know which brands are the best?
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:42 PM
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i only use shell v power
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:45 PM
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i only use shell v power
Any particular reason why you stick with that one?
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:14 PM
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because it's pure petro fuel with no ethanol added, most other brand has ~10% ethanol
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:17 PM
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because it's pure petro fuel with no ethanol added, most other brand has ~10% ethanol
Ah, that's a good reason. Somebody was telling me that the state of MD allows use of some sort of "winter fuel", which basically means even more ethanol than what's stated on the pump? Have you heard that?
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:28 PM
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no, i never go to other gas station unless i run out of fuel...
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:30 PM
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i have carbon built up on the intake manifold of my audi due to low fuel quality, got the dealer cleaned it for 500$ and they told me to switch to shell, never had problem ever after
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:59 AM
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So is Shell the only one with no Ethanol?

I always liked Chevron for whatever reason, do they have Ethanol? 76 if it's cheaper than competing gas stations is okay with me, and Shell I never really go to because it always seems most expensive (maybe now I know why).

I never put Arco in my "nice cars" and realized that considering they charge .50 for Credit Cards it negates their cost savings (especially if you get good Rewards with your CC from Gas purchases), and you get crappy gas to boot.

Around my area United Oil seems to have become the cheapest option. Don't know much about them but I figured their gas might not be so good, considering the low cost? Or anyone have info on them?
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I remember reading that you should rotate the brand of fuel you used every few thousand miles to avoid building additive build up. Makes sense if you think about it...
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:50 AM
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I remember reading that you should rotate the brand of fuel you used every few thousand miles to avoid building additive build up. Makes sense if you think about it...
Ditto, i wish I could find that article online again, it was excellent.

OP - I might suggest Shell V Power or Chevron Super Premium.
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because it's pure petro fuel with no ethanol added, most other brand has ~10% ethanol
Wrong. This has been discussed in this very forum many times--ethanol is added at the local/regional level, and almost always because of EPA mandates. Your area may not require ethanol, other areas do.

Houston and surrounding counties have ethanol (10%) in all our gas, regardless of octane or supplier.
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because it's pure petro fuel with no ethanol added, most other brand has ~10% ethanol
That's just your region / station.

VPower where I have lived has always had ethanol, as have all others.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:46 AM
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i have carbon built up on the intake manifold of my audi due to low fuel quality, got the dealer cleaned it for 500$ and they told me to switch to shell, never had problem ever after
I have heard of this happening. The low cost fuels that don't have any additives can cause carbon build up.

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I remember reading that you should rotate the brand of fuel you used every few thousand miles to avoid building additive build up. Makes sense if you think about it...
I have been using Shell V Power in all my cars. This does make sense. Sounds like I should trade off between Chevron and Shell.
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:25 AM
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All fuel is require to have a min. amount of cleaning additives, some top tier brand will double or triple the min amount of detergent additive. Beside detergents, some gas brands will add lubrication additives which will increase fuel efficiency and horsepower slightly, some add anti corrosive addtives as well. With that said, a number of mechanics have recommanded Shell V-power and Chervon to me, I use Shell V-power exclusively since I get a discount from shopping at a certain supermarket chain.
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That's just your region / station.

VPower where I have lived has always had ethanol, as have all others.
Here is a link for you to use. There are very few stations in TX that has gasoline that are Ethanol-free. This site will allow you to look nationwide as well

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=TX
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:40 AM
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Wrong. This has been discussed in this very forum many times--ethanol is added at the local/regional level, and almost always because of EPA mandates. Your area may not require ethanol, other areas do.

Houston and surrounding counties have ethanol (10%) in all our gas, regardless of octane or supplier.

So if everybody has the 10%, or some amount of ethanol, how do you know which brand to use?? Like if I was picking a brand right now, how would I make my decision (not just based on that everybody is saying to use Shell)?
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I wish I could get 100% gasoline but all gas our area has 10% Ethanol.
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:47 AM
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So if everybody has the 10%, or some amount of ethanol, how do you know which brand to use?? Like if I was picking a brand right now, how would I make my decision (not just based on that everybody is saying to use Shell)?
I would pick on from a Top Tier supplier.

http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:01 AM
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I would pick on from a Top Tier supplier.

http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html
Oooh, that's good info! I've never heard of the Top Tier supplier list. I wonder if somebody actually certifies that ever station conforms to the standards for a supplier. I'm surprised BP is not on the list. I thought they had the good stuff.
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i have carbon built up on the intake manifold of my audi due to low fuel quality, got the dealer cleaned it for 500$ and they told me to switch to shell, never had problem ever after
Very Interesting. Can you provide a little more background info on the situation? Thank you.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:19 AM
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Oooh, that's good info! I've never heard of the Top Tier supplier list. I wonder if somebody actually certifies that ever station conforms to the standards for a supplier. I'm surprised BP is not on the list. I thought they had the good stuff.
BP was on the list but they were removed...


There are so many ironies and unintended consequences of the government forcing us to use alcohol blended fuel to save the planet that it's become a farce...lol.

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i have carbon built up on the intake manifold of my audi due to low fuel quality, got the dealer cleaned it for 500$ and they told me to switch to shell, never had problem ever after
So if I have 18k on mine already, but I've been using less than the best gas the entire time, should i have the dealer clean the pipes next time i'm there? I've recently noticed that if i start the car and throw it in drive right away (literally right away, without waiting even 5 seconds for the engine to warm up or the tach to drop a bit like it usually does after about 5 seconds), then my car jerks pretty bad when i give it a little bit of gas. I'm not sure if it's because of the gas, or if it's because it's freezing out and the engine needs to warm up. This does not happen if I wait the 5 seconds for the tach to drop a bit.
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how about Costco premium?
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how about Costco premium?
Yup, been using Costco since 2003. On the road I would still use Chevron or Shell, probably.
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BMW has had recommendations for at least the past 20 years for their idea of top tier gasoline brands. Chevron and Shell are two of the more prevalent ones. There may be a couple others. I can't remember. If you're really interested, call or email BMW NA customer service on BMW NA's site. Good luck!

Since 2007, most all BMW's (except for some naturally aspirated cars which retain port injection) have been direct injection (fuel injectors are in the cylinder head inside the combustion chamber). The intake ports and tract never see gas in our cars. Deposits on the intake tract are a phenomenon associated with forced induction and direct injection. The most widely held theory is that the deposits are caused by oil vapors collecting in the intake tract of the hot running turbo or supercharged motors, and the absence of detergent gas to wash the intake side of the valves. Intake tract deposits were not unusual in many of the N54's, Mini's, and the turbo Audi's. I note that according to a BMW manual, the crankcase ventilation system in the N55 has been completely redesigned - - presumably to better minimize the crankcase oil vapors from ever getting up to the intake tract.

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