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Old 02-26-2013, 08:17 AM
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... Ironically, I could swear my 535i and x5M run best on Shell. This is my seat of the pants feel and I have no empirical data to back up that statement.
I have done several deals as an executive (for one of the global oil companies) with car manufacturers in several European countries for lubricant recommendations and it is unfortunately an investment issue. It boils down to how much they are offered for endorsing a brand.

Your seat of the pants feel is the best way to gauge gasoline, because, again, there are very minute differences between the top brands and there are so many variables involved in the process that it is almost impossible to scientifically measure the effectiveness of any given brand and compare it to others.
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:59 AM
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After viewing this video I plan to continue using Costco premium, especially as it's ethanol free at my local Costco. This is an impressive, but long, presentation.

http://www.calcupa.org/videos/CUPA-2...ve_19_u2b.html
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:19 AM
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After viewing this video I plan to continue using Costco premium, especially as it's ethanol free at my local Costco. This is an impressive, but long, presentation.

http://www.calcupa.org/videos/CUPA-2...ve_19_u2b.html
Thanks for sharing. This is good info.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:32 AM
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I've tried both Shell V Power and Chevron high test in several different BMWs and could tell no difference at all. Shell gas does have a nitrogen additive that the company touts highly. Maybe Hufington knows what it does.

As for BMW's commercial ties to BP and Castrol, that fact does not in itself diminish the quality of their products, particularly the lubricants. Most car mfrs have such ties. In fact, I'm of the opinion that these partnerships can often result in improved quality of the lubes, particularly when developed with the design and metallurgy of a particular engine or family of engines in mind. The Castrol Professional SLX LL03 diesel oil for VW/Audi, and the Castrol TWS 10w60 for some M cars, comes to mind.

One of the oldest commercial partnerships/sponsorships is between Shell and Ferrari. Check out this video clip (actually a tv ad that ran in Europe), entitled "What Was That Sound", that chronicles the relationship (turn your speakers up full blast to enjoy) - - .
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:54 AM
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I would prefer to have a fuel without ethanol. So after reading all the comments about Shell V-Power being ethanol free, I contacted them. Their reply is below. Essentially, it says that your V-Power probably has ethanol, but in some cases it may not. Eventually, however, it will have ethanol. Also, if one grade of shell has ethanol at a station then usually all three grades have it.

"Please be advised that Shell is converting many stations to gasoline containing up to 10% ethanol due to the requirements of the EPA Renewable Fuel Standard, which applies to all gasoline brands.

Please note that the Federal Renewable Fuels Standard (RFS) places an obligation on all fuel manufacturers to blend ethanol into their gasoline. The billions of gallons of ethanol required to be blended increases each year, and it is anticipated that within a couple of years every gallon of gasoline sold in the US will need to have 10% ethanol in order for fuel manufacturers to meet this regulatory obligation.

When Shell adds ethanol to gasoline it is usually at 10%. In some western states it may be slightly less than 10%, but it is never more than 10%.

Shell gasoline containing up to 10% ethanol is approved by all vehicle manufacturers and has the new Nitrogen Enriched cleaning system and is Top Tier certified.

If a Shell station has ethanol in the gasoline, it is usually in all 3 grades, regular, mid grade and V-Power. Whether the gasoline contains ethanol or not is usually determined by local supply and marketing considerations. Since most Shell stations are owned by local wholesalers and not Shell, they can choose their own supply. However, many areas of the US are required by the EPA to use reformulated gasoline that contains ethanol. You need to check with your local station owner to see if their gasoline contains ethanol or not. All Shell stations are required to have a label on the pumps if the gasoline contains ethanol"
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I would prefer to have a fuel without ethanol. So after reading all the comments about Shell V-Power being ethanol free, I contacted them. Their reply is below. Essentially, it says that your V-Power probably has ethanol, but in some cases it may not. Eventually, however, it will have ethanol. Also, if one grade of shell has ethanol at a station then usually all three grades have it.

"Please be advised that Shell is converting many stations to gasoline containing up to 10% ethanol due to the requirements of the EPA Renewable Fuel Standard, which applies to all gasoline brands.

Please note that the Federal Renewable Fuels Standard (RFS) places an obligation on all fuel manufacturers to blend ethanol into their gasoline. The billions of gallons of ethanol required to be blended increases each year, and it is anticipated that within a couple of years every gallon of gasoline sold in the US will need to have 10% ethanol in order for fuel manufacturers to meet this regulatory obligation.

When Shell adds ethanol to gasoline it is usually at 10%. In some western states it may be slightly less than 10%, but it is never more than 10%.

Shell gasoline containing up to 10% ethanol is approved by all vehicle manufacturers and has the new Nitrogen Enriched cleaning system and is Top Tier certified.

If a Shell station has ethanol in the gasoline, it is usually in all 3 grades, regular, mid grade and V-Power. Whether the gasoline contains ethanol or not is usually determined by local supply and marketing considerations. Since most Shell stations are owned by local wholesalers and not Shell, they can choose their own supply. However, many areas of the US are required by the EPA to use reformulated gasoline that contains ethanol. You need to check with your local station owner to see if their gasoline contains ethanol or not. All Shell stations are required to have a label on the pumps if the gasoline contains ethanol"
If you look back a few posts you will see a link that I posted that shows all current stations that are ethinol free. http://pure-gas.org/
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Old 02-28-2013, 07:02 PM
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Just found a Shell Station close to my house that has one of the cheapest gas in my area, even cheaper than a Chevron Station that somehow is also cheaper than about every other Chevron Station or "high end gas station" in my area. Put the Shell in for the first time today, so pretty stoked about having 2 that are "cheaper" around me (mind you, my area is a more expensive gas area in my City anyway).

BTW, why are some Chevron Stations, or Shell Stations, etc., sometimes significantly cheaper than ones in even the same zip code, if not just blocks away from each other? Is this an owner-choice or something?
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