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E82 / E88 1 Series (2008 - 2013)
BMWs throw back to the iconic 2002, with a renewed form and function. The smallest car in BMW's line up but still packs a punch. Available in coupe or convertible, powered by either an inline 6 in the 128 or the twin turbo rocket sled 135.

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Old 05-02-2013, 02:47 PM
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test drove the 128 and the 135

Needed to replace my 3.2 Audi TTR (only had 16k miles....needed the back seat). Drove the 128 and the 135 a couple of times at different dealerships. For me it was no contest and purchased a 2013 135 convert. Knew that if I'd gone with the 128, I'd be spending a few years wishing I'd purchased the 135. The 128 is not a bad car and very similar to my TTR (230hp V6 vs. 250hp V6)....but the 135 is a much different car, and much more of a blast on the road IMHO. My sister-in-law has a 128 convert and it blows her away. I think the car you are getting rid of influences your opinion on the car you buy.

Now all I need is a wind deflector...pretty pathetic that BMW does not provide one with the car and the internal hard drive for music (12G) is a joke....but all in all, I'm VERY happy.

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Needed to replace my 3.2 Audi TTR (only had 16k miles....needed the back seat). Drove the 128 and the 135 a couple of times at different dealerships. For me it was no contest and purchased a 2013 135 convert. Knew that if I'd gone with the 128, I'd be spending a few years wishing I'd purchased the 135. The 128 is not a bad car and very similar to my TTR (230hp V6 vs. 250hp V6)....but the 135 is a much different car, and much more of a blast on the road IMHO. My sister-in-law has a 128 convert and it blows her away. I think the car you are getting rid of influences your opinion on the car you buy.

Now all I need is a wind deflector...pretty pathetic that BMW does not provide one with the car and the internal hard drive for music (12G) is a joke....but all in all, I'm VERY happy.

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Old 05-02-2013, 04:48 PM
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Brought the car home 4 days ago so no pics yet. Pretty standard looking 135i convertible....space grey w/black interior. Also thought the 128i I was considering looked nice (silver w/coral red interior). Will post some pics next week....will be taking it into the mountains tomorrow and am interested seeing how it does (if my wife gets nausea, it's a good sign). Cheers.

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Old 05-02-2013, 06:19 PM
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Old 05-04-2013, 03:41 PM
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You had to be informed that the Mazda Speed was totaled? Frankly, if I was your insurance company, I wouldn't insure you especially in any 1 series. BTW, you'll get into just as much trouble in the 128 as the 135.

Regarding your questions, the early 135 models had problems with the high pressure fuel pump for the fuel injection. I understand that BMW was offering a 10-year warranty on the older cars covering this problem, but I don't know this for a fact.

I'm not a big fan of forced induction either turbo or supercharger. However, technology has come a long way, and the turbos don't have the issues they once had. Some of you might remember issues like oil starvation, a procedure to shut down the engine, the necessity for synthetic oil (now mandatory), and the cost to repair a turbo. I recently checked with an independent BMW shop, and the owner told me he wasn't seeing any problems with the new cars. Also he claimed a turbo rebuild would be less than a grand - pretty cheap! Finally, the gas mileage depends upon how heavy your foot is. I expect to average 25 MPG.
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:44 PM
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Re: Torn between the 128 and the 135

not a fan of turbos id get the 128

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Old 05-06-2013, 09:37 AM
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Well, took the 135i into the mountains of VT this past weekend. Loved the acceleration, much better than with my TTR 3.2l V6 (which is very similar to the 128i). Wish the 135i steering and suspension was as good as with the TTR! I AM now a big fan of the turbo....would have been really bummed if I'd purchased the 128 as there is no comparison IMHO. Also, was quite impressed with the tranny vs. my TTR or the 128i.

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Old 05-07-2013, 01:22 PM
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Big difference in the performance between the 128 & 135, which potential buyers need to experience themselves before deciding whether it is worth the extra money. I decided that the money was worth what you get. And if anyone is interested in an almost new 135i convertible check the classifieds for a great deal.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:39 AM
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Yes, there is much to compare....the suspension, seats, the tranny, v6 vs. 4cyl, etc. I had a pretty tough time and ended up test driving the 135i and 128i at three different dealerships over a few months time. I was particularly impressed with the 128i with the M sport suspension and extras vs. the standard suspension...there definitely is a difference. If that particular 128i also had the NAV package and a better color (Blue/Oyster is not my fav) I may now have a 128i vs. a 135i. The bottom line is that you cannot go wrong with either car IMHO...just a question of preference and cost.
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:59 AM
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I went with the 135. The decision I made is that i wanted the engine pure and simple. I know some go for the 128 to get the look for not too much coin.
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:19 AM
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I went with the 135. The decision I made is that i wanted the engine pure and simple. I know some go for the 128 to get the look for not too much coin.
Personally, I think if you wanted the purity of an inline six, then the 128i is the way to go. Yes, it's less coin, but for many it's actually not the money that's at issue here.

Quite frankly, I love my 135i and think it's a phenomenal car... but on a highly technical track where turbo lag can cost you, I have had 128's hang with and even get ahead of me (until a straightaway... where you know what happens).

The 128 is a phenomenal car... the 135's engine really is awesome in terms of power, but for responsiveness and linearity the 128 has it in spades. That inline six is a thing of beauty when driven properly... the 135 can be a bit coarse and lacking finesse when trying to hold a line in a corner.
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:45 AM
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I also don't see where people will gravitate to the 128 because of lack of coin (though that can be an issue). Some people just like the V6 and/or are wary of owning a turbo.

Myself? Having owned an Audi 4cyl turbo and having purchased an Audi TTR V6 (instead of the 4 cyl turbo) becuase of the lag, I was concerned about the potential for lag with the 135i....it's not the case, otherwise I would not have bought one.

I do think it pretty clear that the V6 is an engine that has peaked with car companies starting to phase them out in favor of the 4 cyl turbos. Re resale and "want to own"....a V6 is less attractive to own, that's my thinking re the general public and the opinion will only get stronger as more fuel efficient cars become available. To some extent, I see the 128i and it's V6 as "old technology". Also, the bottom line for me is the 135i is much more fun to drive (note: I do not drive on tracks or race at all...absolutely no interest).

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Old 05-10-2013, 12:19 PM
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I also don't see where people will gravitate to the 128 because of lack of coin (though that can be an issue). Some people just like the V6 and/or are wary of owning a turbo.

Myself? Having owned an Audi 4cyl turbo and having purchased an Audi TTR V6 (instead of the 4 cyl turbo) becuase of the lag, I was concerned about the potential for lag with the 135i....it's not the case, otherwise I would not have bought one.

I do think it pretty clear that the V6 is an engine that has peaked with car companies starting to phase them out in favor of the 4 cyl turbos. Re resale and "want to own"....a V6 is less attractive to own, that's my thinking re the general public and the opinion will only get stronger as more fuel efficient cars become available. To some extent, I see the 128i and it's V6 as "old technology". Also, the bottom line for me is the 135i is much more fun to drive (note: I do not drive on tracks or race at all...absolutely no interest).

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Just FYI-- BMWs' use inline 6s not V6s. While that might seem like a nit-picky thing to point out, it's something that has been unique to BMW for a while now (used to be very common but the v6 is more space efficient). The advantages of the I6 configuration are smoothness (it's inherently balanced), torque and the unique sound (which most feel is much nicer than a v6). Both the 128 and 135 have I6s-- the difference being that the 135's is turbocharged. I do think BMW will continue making turbo I6s for the forseeable future, but for some of us there was something very unique and special about a naturally aspirated inline 6. And BMW did them very well.

But I totally agree that car companies are phasing out naturally aspirated sixes for inline turbo 4s. Personally, I'm skeptical that they are really that much more fuel efficient; I think most of the gaines we see are from moving to an 8 speed automatic vs the older 5 and 6 speeds.
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Re: Torn between the 128 and the 135

congrats on the pick.if the 135 werent turbo charged id def get it its a great car that has gotten great reviews

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Old 05-15-2013, 10:52 AM
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I just bought a 2010 128i and love the car. I test drove the 138i and liked it, but thought it would be more money to maintain. The N52 engine is unusual and it has been a curious research project, however the mechanics and techs I've talked with tell me it is one of the most reliable models. I've heard the same thing about the suspension tuning, it will take a little trial and error to get it right. I'm just doing normal driving now so I'm not concerned about it. Pay attention to the sound system offered, there are 3 different packages you want to consider. I love my 128i.

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Old 05-15-2013, 11:08 AM
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Re: Torn between the 128 and the 135

I got the 135i and I think the only thing i would want is a beefier sound.

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