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Old 11-14-2015, 11:51 AM
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Slight wobble at idle

Hope someone can help. At idle, the car wobbles side to side slightly. It's not pronounced but definitely perceptible. It's not constant, but happens randomly a few times a minute. It mostly goes away when the engine is warmed up. Of course dealer cannot replicate. Anyone experience this as well? If so what was the fix? I do a lot of short trips, stop and go, and this is starting to bother me. Never had a car wobble, vibrate yes but not wobble. Many thanks.
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Old 11-15-2015, 06:16 AM
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I have experienced this too in my 2013. At first I thought it was a stronger than normal breeze buffeting the car, but it is the engine actually moving the whole car. I don't think it is a problem. It just felt strange the first few times.
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Old 11-15-2015, 08:29 AM
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City trips are h*** on a car, would sooner buy a used 100K car that is all highway than 60K city car, engine will be in better shape to say nothing of all else.

OK, now that we're past that, you didn't say how many miles are on your car, though by the MY I'd guess your approaching or slightly over 60K it is time to change the plugs at the next scheduled maintenance. Already have this diagnosis for my car same MY and 58K with same symptoms. And yes the rough (wobbly) idle is the typical indicator for this. Occasionally a bad or going coil may also be the cause, but these are extremely rarely the case.
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Old 11-15-2015, 08:51 AM
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I'm curious. Which engine do you guys have?

Traditionally, 4 cylinder cars with larger displacements run a bit rough, so if you have 528s, that could be the issues ( although I heard they are surprisingly smooth).

I have a 2011 535i and don't have any issues at all.

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Old 11-15-2015, 09:04 AM
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If you look at the right side of our headers I think you'll see that we're refering to the N55 used in the 535i(x).
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Old 11-15-2015, 09:04 AM
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I have a 2013 528 with the N20 four cylinder with 40K miles. Mine does the same thing, but I believe it is just a characteristic of this particular four cylinder engine..at least that is my experience and confirmed by my Service Adviser. This is the reason I do use the start/ stop feature at lights. Rather put up with the brief shudder from the start up versus the clicking/ occasional wobble of the engine at idle.
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Old 11-15-2015, 11:59 AM
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City trips are h*** on a car, would sooner buy a used 100K car that is all highway than 60K city car, engine will be in better shape to say nothing of all else.

OK, now that we're past that, you didn't say how many miles are on your car, though by the MY I'd guess your approaching or slightly over 60K it is time to change the plugs at the next scheduled maintenance. Already have this diagnosis for my car same MY and 58K with same symptoms. And yes the rough (wobbly) idle is the typical indicator for this. Occasionally a bad or going coil may also be the cause, but these are extremely rarely the case.
I have 45k miles on my car. Hope it's not coils.
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Old 11-16-2015, 01:45 AM
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If you look at the right side of our headers I think you'll see that we're refering to the N55 used in the 535i(x).
I couldn't see what cars you guys had as I replied from my iPhone...it doesn't show it there.

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Old 11-16-2015, 08:50 AM
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I have a 2013 535 with 30k. The plugs/coil suggestion was interesting. In my old 545, if a coil was going, I would get a CEL and the code would be a misfire read.

I will keep my eyes open better now.
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I have 45k miles on my car. Hope it's not coils.
You said a lot of short trips, how short? 10-15 miles or less? Lots of stop/go even on these trips? If you answered yes to either or both of these then do a highway trip where the car is at >= 55mph for at least 45 minutes, this should take care of most if not all the build up. Then repeat weekly for at least 30 min per trip at 55+mph. NOTE: All of this is caveated with the proviso that you are using 91 octane or better from a top tier fuel supplier Shell, BP, etc.).

Some will advise a consumer grade fuel system/injector cleaner. My experience with these is they are inconsistent at best and none of them are as strong as the cleaner used by the dealership. Best is to do the above - good gas and regular highway mileage. BMW and other marques are built for high performance and cruising not taxiing around town, diesel versions possible exception, although the U.S. model BMW X30d didn't fair so well with it's manifold issues.

Let us know how it turns out.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:10 AM
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I have 530D f10, it also wobbles only when its cold, after you push accelerator a bit it stops... I recon it might be a dodgy spark plug... Got a diagnostic cable, need to get proper soft to read the engine error code, might find something, really dont wanna go to a dealer. ill try to update this thread how it has gone later on
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:16 AM
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I have 530D f10, it also wobbles only when its cold, after you push accelerator a bit it stops... I recon it might be a dodgy spark plug... Got a diagnostic cable, need to get proper soft to read the engine error code, might find something, really dont wanna go to a dealer. ill try to update this thread how it has gone later on
Your car has no spark plugs. It does have glow plugs which add heat to the heat of compression to aid starting. Once running they shut off.
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Old 11-17-2015, 08:14 AM
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My mistake just not a proper word used as im not a native english speaking person but you got my idea what else can it be? Looks like its cold and on idle, it wobbles for couple mins
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Old 11-17-2015, 08:17 AM
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Slight wobble at idle

To add up, before had e60 530d and was the same, since i did diagnostic, been showing error on glow plug so i recon it might be the same same sympthoms correct if im wrong, but need to sort it out this issue
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Old 12-19-2015, 06:56 AM
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Today did diagnostics for my f10 530d, it showed glow plug heating unit or whatever so thats the reason why it shakes a bit while its cold after new year gonna book the service, and will be sorted
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Old 12-20-2015, 07:28 PM
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Hope someone can help. At idle, the car wobbles side to side slightly. It's not pronounced but definitely perceptible. It's not constant, but happens randomly a few times a minute. It mostly goes away when the engine is warmed up. Of course dealer cannot replicate. Anyone experience this as well? If so what was the fix? I do a lot of short trips, stop and go, and this is starting to bother me. Never had a car wobble, vibrate yes but not wobble. Many thanks.
I have this when it is cold.

I had same thing in my previous gen 5 series from brand new I think.

I thought it was normal and never really bothered me.
Coming from a Honda, BMW generally vibrates more. Most of them are good vibrations, to me.

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Old 02-02-2016, 12:07 PM
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Ive changed today Glow plug control unit, which caused shaking engine on cold start now it works like a swiss hand watch ))) 530D )
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Just took my 535ix in for its annual low mi. service and rear axle brake job last week. Mentioned the intermittent rough idle, the system showed an error for the low pressure fuel sensor but is not triggering a CEL, at the cost of replacing this thing (sensor and line about $150 - no probe; labor ~$300!) OUCH!!!

Now here's the amazing thing, they also performed an electrical system check and found the battery below specs, decided to replace as it is the original from almost 5 years ago and 60000+ mi., guess what, no more occasional idle problems! Go figure.

That really makes no sense to me. Gotta love automation?
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Just took my 535ix in for its annual low mi. service and rear axle brake job last week. Mentioned the intermittent rough idle, the system showed an error for the low pressure fuel sensor but is not triggering a CEL, at the cost of replacing this thing (sensor and line about $150 - no probe; labor ~$300!) OUCH!!!

Now here's the amazing thing, they also performed an electrical system check and found the battery below specs, decided to replace as it is the original from almost 5 years ago and 60000+ mi., guess what, no more occasional idle problems! Go figure.

That really makes no sense to me. Gotta love automation?
That battery is so important to the whole system. It's amazing how things are after a change. I too had a slight wobble once in while. I changed the battery (It was old) and haven't seen it since. Expect for when it was 4 degrees...ekk...back in the garage it went!
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I've got the same thing going on. 2011 535 with ~32k on the clock. Looks like time to mention it when I have the car back @ the dealer to have it replaced before CPO warranty ticks out.
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I've got the same thing going on. 2011 535 with ~32k on the clock. Looks like time to mention it when I have the car back @ the dealer to have it replaced before CPO warranty ticks out.
CPO won't cover the battery....

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