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F10 / F11 (2011 - 2016)
The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

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Old 01-10-2017, 04:17 AM
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Sport+

What's the point of this option - I mean BMW codes it to force the car into comfort mode?

Does anyone really use it?


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Old 01-10-2017, 05:41 AM
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Old 01-10-2017, 06:47 AM
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I dont understand the question, actually.

The sport+ mode allows the wheels to slip (burn out) if one desires to do that. Note, some people think it turns OFF the traction control and stuff, and I have it straight from BMW drivers at the Performance Center West that it does NOT do do that. What it does, is allow some wheel slippage etc, and more aggressive driving. Traction control is actually still ON just relaxed.

Turning traction control off requires pushing the dsc button for something like 10 seconds.
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Old 01-10-2017, 07:17 AM
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I have the 535i F10 and using sport+ has a very noticeable throttle response and quicker gear change - it also allows me to use launch control but if you need to get out of a situation quick make sure manual mode in the gear selector is placed back to adaptive.


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Old 01-10-2017, 07:38 AM
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In the 14 535, I've got to push extra buttons to get to a Sport + mode

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Old 01-10-2017, 09:52 AM
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When you follks are in Sport+, does that retain the Sport chassis and drivetrain settings? Mine seems to revert them back to Comfort. It feels softer and also the 'Sport' designation at the bottom of the speedometer reverts to blank ie, when it's in Comfort.

I've got Dynamic Damping, IAS, the works and it's a Euro spec so I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

I'll experiment a little more with it just never been impressed the few times I used it.
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:57 AM
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In my 16 550 M Sport it does not switch to comfort... mine keeps the Sport setting
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Old 01-10-2017, 11:28 AM
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When you follks are in Sport+, does that retain the Sport chassis and drivetrain settings? Mine seems to revert them back to Comfort. It feels softer and also the 'Sport' designation at the bottom of the speedometer reverts to blank ie, when it's in Comfort.

I've got Dynamic Damping, IAS, the works and it's a Euro spec so I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

I'll experiment a little more with it just never been impressed the few times I used it.
Does your dashboard show "Sport+"?

Are you using the rocker switch (Comfort/Sport) two taps to Sport+, or are you pressing/holding the DSC button? Your description of the car behavior sounds like you're using the DSC button - which if you hold down WILL turn off both DSC (Stability Control) and DTC (Traction Control), AND revert the chassis settings to Comfort. Why BMW does that is a mystery. To get Sport+ you should be doing two taps of the Comfort/Sport rocker switch, which should then show in your dash as Sport, then Sport+ on the second tap.
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Old 01-10-2017, 11:54 AM
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Wow. I had never done sport+ because I thought it was just sport without traction control. Excited to try this.


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Old 01-10-2017, 04:40 PM
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Ok just checked on my way to the office. Weird my sport settings had chassis set to normal. But I think carbon fiver nailed it. It's the DSC disabling which I was thinking about. Will check again after work.

Yes I used the rocker settings with two taps up the other night.


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Old 01-11-2017, 06:02 PM
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Turning traction control off requires pushing the dsc button for something like 10 seconds.

Doing this action also seems to take car out of Sports mode altogether. Once the dash reads DSC Off you're back into Comfort mode. If you press Sports mode again it puts the DSC back on. At least in my car.

I cannot be both in Sports mode or Sports+ mode and have my DSC actually off.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:49 PM
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Doing this action also seems to take car out of Sports mode altogether. Once the dash reads DSC Off you're back into Comfort mode. If you press Sports mode again it puts the DSC back on. At least in my car.



I cannot be both in Sports mode or Sports+ mode and have my DSC actually off.


Isn't the difference between sport and sport + just that? In sport + DSC is off and TC on by default.


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Old 01-11-2017, 06:59 PM
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Isn't the difference between sport and sport + just that? In sport + DSC is off and TC on by default.


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That's true, but it's not what he's trying to do. He wants to have both DSC and DTC off (no nannies at all - full manual control) along with the Sport chassis/drivetrain settings (suspension, throttle response, shift response). I went through this too when I got my 535i - it's not possible. It seems counterintuitive that BMW designs it that way. I'd think that someone who is turning DSC/DTC off is using it for track or similar where you want full control of the car for spirited driving, and you'd want to be able to have the Sportiest chassis/drivetrain settings. With DSC/DTC off the car reverts to Comfort settings - the only Sportier thing you can do is put the shifter to M/S.
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:07 PM
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Above is correct and I found a link that includes what is supposed to be a BMW response although they only address their rationale for the accelerator being reverted to comfort.


http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...php?p=21023803


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Old 01-11-2017, 08:12 PM
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Isn't the difference between sport and sport + just that? In sport + DSC is off and TC on by default.


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That's how I originally understood it. But while actually driving in one or the other if my tires start to slip it will activate and I'll get that same yellow car slide notification and the rpm's will subsequently drop until traction is regained.

There is no discernible difference in either mode. Maybe it's just my car though.
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