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Why do you need such crazy spacers? What kind of suspension are you on? Those are the exact same wheel specs as the OEM M3 wheels. Should fit perfectly on a non-coilover suspension, and if you are on coilovers, you should only need a very thin spacer on the front, if at all.
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15mm in front 25mm in the rear I double triple checked the math

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I used this too just to check http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

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Why do you need such crazy spacers? What kind of suspension are you on? Those are the exact same wheel specs as the OEM M3 wheels. Should fit perfectly on a non-coilover suspension, and if you are on coilovers, you should only need a very thin spacer on the front, if at all.
You guys positive? Because I still am clueless as to how the offset works....I thought the offset means the rim is back set into the tire well more.... Also since the style 5's are et20 I figured I'd want to come closer to that? Please shed some light on this guys
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I use 12 or 15mm up front...can't remember, but thats with my dsII's at et40 I believe.
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Why do you need such crazy spacers? What kind of suspension are you on? Those are the exact same wheel specs as the OEM M3 wheels. Should fit perfectly on a non-coilover suspension, and if you are on coilovers, you should only need a very thin spacer on the front, if at all.
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I use 12 or 15mm up front...can't remember, but thats with my dsII's at et40 I believe.
How about in the back?
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I have no spacer in the rear. If I did my fender would be sitting on the tire.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:11 PM
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All of the stock wheels for '96-99 E36 M3s (contour, DSII, LTW) were 17x7.5" et41 (front) and 17x8.5" et41 (rear). If your wheels match those specs as you previously stated, you will not need spacers of any sort unless you are lowered on coilovers. If on coilovers, the only place they will potentially rub will be the front c/o lower spring perch. The rears will not rub no matter what if you use normal (i.e. not over-sized) tires. BTW, OEM tire fitment for the wheel dimensions I mentioned are 225/45 (front) and 245/40 (rear). If you go with that setup, you'll be running the exact same wheel/tire dimensions as a stock '96-99 M3.

Style 5s are et20, so they stick out a lot more than et41 wheels. In the case of Style 5s, fender rolling becomes the main issue due to rubbing on the outside, not inside. Don't know why you would reference Style 5s though, since they have a totally different offset than what you have on your hands. They aren't' something you should be basing your calculations on.

And just for reference, my wheels are all 17x8.5" et40 (so they stick out 1mm further than stock M3 wheels) and I run 245/40s at all four corners with no spacers, and no rubbing.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:22 PM
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All of the stock wheels for '96-99 E36 M3s (contour, DSII, LTW) were 17x7.5" et41 (front) and 17x8.5" et41 (rear). If your wheels match those specs as you previously stated, you will not need spacers of any sort unless you are lowered on coilovers. If on coilovers, the only place they will potentially rub will be the front c/o lower spring perch. The rears will not rub no matter what if you use normal (i.e. not over-sized) tires. BTW, OEM tire fitment for the wheel dimensions I mentioned are 225/45 (front) and 245/40 (rear). If you go with that setup, you'll be running the exact same wheel/tire dimensions as a stock '96-99 M3.

Style 5s are et20, so they stick out a lot more than et41 wheels. In the case of Style 5s, fender rolling becomes the main issue due to rubbing on the outside, not inside. Don't know why you would reference Style 5s though, since they have a totally different offset than what you have on your hands. They aren't' something you should be basing your calculations on.

And just for reference, my wheels are all 17x8.5" et40 (so they stick out 1mm further than stock M3 wheels) and I run 245/40s at all four corners with no spacers, and no rubbing.
215's up front 235's in the rear for me then? Trying to get everything together and this is why I ask so i don't spend 180 bucks on stuff that i don't need...Rather ask then loose money Or whats your opinion on what I should run in front and back Ze?
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215's up front 235's in the rear for me then?
No. If your wheels actually are 17x7.5" et41 (front) and 17x8.5" et41 (rear), just run the OEM M3 tire specs (225/45 (front) and 245/40 (rear)).

What kind of suspension are you on?
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No. If your wheels actually are 17x7.5" et41 (front) and 17x8.5" et41 (rear), just run the OEM M3 tire specs (225/45 (front) and 245/40 (rear)).

What kind of suspension are you on?
Stock at the moment soon to be coil-overs. Why the change in sidewall height for the fronts? 45-40
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larger fender well, height wise.
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And because if you went to a 225/40 and kept the rears at 245/40, you get a speed discrepancy of 2.6%. Alternatively, if you kept the fronts at the OEM size of 225/45, but then went to 245/45 in the rear, you'd get a speed discrepancy of 2.8%. The 225/45 & 245/40 combo yields the smallest speed discrepancy possible (1%) given the tire dimensions available.
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larger fender well, height wise.
Awesome I'll stick with those sizes then. thanks Ze and Bimmer . I'll just get the tires and rims together and buy spacers after I test fit them. But still a lot of work before that ...Tire rack has a sale on Fuzion ZR1's Can get the tires I need for a mere 300 bucks
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I rock Firestone's in the winter full studded . Summer isn't to bad usually dry pavement and it probably rains about once a week or less (typically) .Those Fuzions have great reviews for the price either that or Sumitomo HTR Z II's they are a little more but seem to be in the same range.I bought ultra all seasons last year and regretted it a little they were not as aggressive as i would've liked.

Awesome you didn't have to do the math but i appreciate it lol. I'll stick with those more progress on the rims tomorrow night I hope.
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That is what ALL my basis for spacers were based on.....
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I've got 3 of the 4 centers out. First one was the most corroded so it took the most work. Two nights of PB Blaster and whacking on it finally got it broken loose. The other two took about 20 minutes total. Go figure.....
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Fortunately the centers are in pretty good shape so most of the work is on the barrels......
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That is what ALL my basis for spacers were based on.....
Yes Rokkors that's gonna be after the rims though... So spacers can wait till after
DC those look rough....hand polishing? Franklyn I still haven't seen your fives yet.
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Alright man I'll make sure i remember that
Ordered the paint.... Supposed to be as close to bbs gold as you can get without getting it straight from Germany. I've already got the clear as well going with a two part 2k clear.
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Alright man I'll make sure i remember that
Ordered the paint.... Supposed to be as close to bbs gold as you can get without getting it straight from Germany. I've already got the clear as well going with a two part 2k clear.
This is what I used when I painted my style 30s. The Eastwood looks pretty close to the same shade/texture gold.
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Yeah some people said Grimm was a little off Eastwood had great reviews...judging by that though it looks darn close. You clear coated?
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