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Yeah some people said Grimm was a little off Eastwood had great reviews...judging by that though it looks darn close. You clear coated?
Just the gold area. The silver area is Duplicolor Chrome paint and you can't clear coat it or even wax it without it turning gray. Ask me how I learned that.....
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I've had poor luck clearcoating ANY Duplicolor, even when using their own clear!
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Duplicolor itself is actually darn good paint. It just doesn't like clear coating over it. I paint a lot of train horns with Duplicolor, and it's a lot more durable that Krylon or even rattle-can Rustoleum.
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I agree with Ken on the quality of the Duplicolor paints. I think it was just a quirk of this chrome paint where the clear coat affected the mirror like surface as it tried to bond to it and made it less reflective, thus the graying effect. Even without the clear the chrome paint has held up really well so no complaints there.

Edit: Well my RS Wheel project just officially hit the "this sucks" stage. Got the center out of the first three wheels without any major drama other than a lot of whacking to get the most corroded center out. Just started on the 4th and bit spun in the head of the first bolt and snapped the head off the second bolt. Anybody out there got a junk Style 42 they can pull some bolts out of for me?
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DC black forests has the bolts :/ sadly there twice as expensive as the style 5 bolts. They seem to be called Wolfsburg edition they look very similar to ours....posting an update here ina bit painting is under way.
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Some pictures of how I polished the bolts. 320 grit to 2000 grit to scotch buff pad to knock off any remaining hard to get spots. The vice grips worked great for holding the bolts while I worked at them. I also had to get the powdercoat out of the 12 points using an xacto knife and beefy needle. All in all spent about 5 hours working on the bolts
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Painting- tried experimenting using heat it worked fairly well took forever to dry for the initial coat though. Stuck like a champ after I hit the powder-coat with 600 grit. There is SO much metal flake in this paint that for the day after every time I touched the rims it looks like I stuck my hands in glitter. Did four coats of paint overall. Some test fitting and my cat keeping the barrels warm. and I'm really interested to see how the polished bolts will look when there all back together.
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Some pictures of how I polished the bolts. 320 grit to 2000 grit to scotch buff pad to knock off any remaining hard to get spots. The vice grips worked great for holding the bolts while I worked at them. I also had to get the powdercoat out of the 12 points using an xacto knife and beefy needle. All in all spent about 5 hours working on the bolts
Did you fell like Mr. Monk when you were polishing the bolts?
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Did you fell like Mr. Monk when you were polishing the bolts?
I became one with the bolts. IF that's what your wondering
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No, I was referring to Adrian Monk.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Monk
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^lol at monk reference. I was going to say that you failed with pictures because no cat, but guess it snuck in...

They look really good! I'm shocked actually.

Way toooo much work for me.
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DC black forests has the bolts :/ sadly there twice as expensive as the style 5 bolts. They seem to be called Wolfsburg edition they look very similar to ours....posting an update here ina bit painting is under way.
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Thanks BC! I saw those too. The way this last wheel is coming apart I might need 19 of those babies. The torch is coming out next and I'm going to cook the crap out of each one before I take the breaker bar to them.

Yours are looking really good!
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Way toooo much work for me.
Stay away from the style 5s then. 34 bolts per wheel. Just replaced ALL of them in my style 5s this past weekend. Only had to grind off two of them fortunately!
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Thanks guys lol. It's definitely taking forever. Luckily it's winter here still so I'm not rushing anything. Gotta make a stand clear all the bolts finish painting the centers then reassembly and tire time.I just found out that you can DIY anodize titanium by applying different voltages to achieve different colors...whatya guys think?
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(1) The colors aren't going to be permanent. They will fade. I welded Titanium for 25 years. I am very familiar with color changes from heating alloys.

(2) It's heat oxidation, not true anodizing, so you need to be aware that your are heating the Titanium sufficiently to discolor it. Changing the voltage changed the heat level.

(3)Titanium will withstand a LOT of heat, but any heat/cool cycle is going to change the metallurgy. Are you sure you want to risk your life on unknown metallurgy?
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Are you sure you want to risk your life on unknown metallurgy?
Well, the good new is with the style 42s if the bolts let go you're not going to lose the wheel. The barrel and tire are just going to wedge in your fender well and mangle the rotor and caliper.
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Well, the good new is with the style 42s if the bolts let go you're not going to lose the wheel. The barrel and tire are just going to wedge in your fender well and mangle the rotor and caliper.
Alright I'll just clear coat them then just thought that was kinda cool about titanium. I've never really worked with it before thanks for the heads up horn
DC i'm pretty sure you could take all the bolts out of yours and they'd stay together
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Alright I'll just clear coat them then just thought that was kinda cool about titanium. I've never really worked with it before thanks for the heads up horn
DC i'm pretty sure you could take all the bolts out of yours and they'd stay together
If you really want the bolts anodized to a selected color, talk to a plating shop and get it done professionally. Anodizing is a pretty inexpensive process and they could batch anodize all your bolts at one time so it's not going to take much equipment time for them. It would be a controlled process done by experts so you wouldn't have to worry so much about losing a wheel....

And, I've got three of the 4 centers out so i've got 3 that could go "free willie" on me. I only tried the first two bolts on the 4th one and got the stripped out head and a snapped off head. I've got a fresh bottle for my propane torch so I'm going to try breaking down the thread locker with that instead of the heat gun and see if I can get the bolts broken loose. it's going to be a PITA getting those two bolts drilled out. I have no idea why BBS used titanium for the style 42s. It can't be that they were concerned about rotating mass since they used 34 STEEL bolts in style 5s.
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Should I just leave them polished? I mean they look pretty nice as is originally wanted gold but the silver ties nicely.
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Should I just leave them polished? I mean they look pretty nice as is originally wanted gold but the silver ties nicely.
While titanium has pretty good corrosion resistance, if you don't clear coat them they'll lose the gloss pretty quickly or you'll need to be polishing them pretty frequently and keeping them waxed. Like aluminum, titanium protects itself by forming an oxide layer on its surface.
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Indeed. It forms the oxide layer so quickly in the presence of Oxygen, to successfully weld Titanium to a certified level, it has to be flooded (submerged) in Argon or other inert gas to prevent corrosive contamination in the weld. I had all sorts of Argon traps/containers to put the pieces being welded into.
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Well this is sad news.... Paint them then? I really didn't like the gunmetal oxide layer. To keep them from corroding they are sitting in an isopropyl alcohol bath. It was either clear-coat or paint black so option two it is. Unless you have any other recommendations horn?
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