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Old 02-26-2013, 05:27 PM
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How long can I run on a flat run flat?

Hit a lot hole a few days ago. Right front developed a bubble on the seam. Made and appointment for Saturday. Tire still had pressure. Well I hit the same pothole tonight! And it blew. Today is Tuesday. Can I make it till Saturday? I drive 20 miles a day?
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:56 PM
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No dont drive on it or u will scratch up ur rims. Take it from someone with first hand experience. Get it towed to the dealer as well.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:28 PM
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:49 AM
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50 miles max. And if you do drive 50 miles on a run flat with no air you pretty much need a new tire.

If you drive on a run flat without air, the tire heats up and damage occurs to the side wall.

They are not much different than a donut spare. Stay below 50 MPH and don't drive on them more than a few miles to get off the road safely.

This is why you should carry a spare despite what BMW says. They sell OEM BMW spare tire kits in Europe because the consumers there will not tolerate the insanity of not having a spare. BMW blocks the sale of the kits in the U.S. but you can still purchase them from european BMW dealers off eBay.uk.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:01 AM
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the more you drive a run-flat after flat, the more damage to the helpful sidewalls and more difficult to repair it to the point that you may need a replacement.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:26 AM
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Hit a lot hole a few days ago. Right front developed a bubble on the seam. Made and appointment for Saturday. Tire still had pressure. Well I hit the same pothole tonight! And it blew. Today is Tuesday. Can I make it till Saturday? I drive 20 miles a day?
It doesnt sound like your tire is repairable. If the tire blew, I would get it replace ASAP before it comes off at the tire bead. The manual states you can drive a max of 50 miles and with the max speed of 50 MPH with a flat, but your situation sounds a bit more serious. Just out of curiosity, where is this pot hole located, I might want to keep an eye out if I am in the same area, thank you.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:46 AM
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You won't scratch the rim driving on it, but don't push it.
Why do you have to wait till Saturday? This is an emergency not a scheduled oil change. Call your dealer and explain.
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:43 PM
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I just had a flat runflat. I drove it for about 37 mi. and had no problems. I kept the speed down and noticed the rear end got 'squirmy'. There was zero pressure. When I took it to my trusted independent I noticed that the tire sidewall was starting to bow out. My rim was totally fine. I would not drive more than 50 mi. The interior of the tire looked perfectly OK but I replaced the tire after the 3.5" tapcon screw was removed since the belts could be seen on the inside. Take the car in as soon as you can.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:04 PM
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While I dont doubt some of you may have had no problems driving with no tire pressure, there are some of us who had the same thought and paid the consequences.

To the OP, do you really want to chance it? Check out what happened to my rims after I thought I could drive on it after a flat. Followed by a heated discussion with the dealership as to why would they advertise that you are able to drive X miles on run flats and no clause about a risk of ruining your rims.
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:26 AM
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It doesnt sound like your tire is repairable. If the tire blew, I would get it replace ASAP before it comes off at the tire bead. The manual states you can drive a max of 50 miles and with the max speed of 50 MPH with a flat, but your situation sounds a bit more serious. Just out of curiosity, where is this pot hole located, I might want to keep an eye out if I am in the same area, thank you.
Southeast x-Way, second lane in from the right, near exit 11
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:38 AM
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You won't scratch the rim driving on it, but don't push it.
Why do you have to wait till Saturday? This is an emergency not a scheduled oil change. Call your dealer and explain.
I originally hit the pothole this past Sunday and knew it was hard. The thing is a crater. I looked at my wheel and tire and saw a bubble on the seam maybe the size of half a golf ball. I had a pretty busy Monday and Tuesday at work and the car was riding fine and the tire was holding air. Thursday worked best for me, I knew I would be getting a new tire, I have the insurance. BUT, on Tuesday night, I wasn't paying attention and hit the same pothole and the stress on the bubble on the seam caused whatever seal was left to break. So, my original post was on Tuesday evening after driving on it for only a few miles. Then I drove back into Boston yesterday on it in the rain and I kind of answered my own question of how long?, not very! It's unsafe, 50 mph is really pushing it. It was vibrating, etc. I got to work and called the dealer and they said bring it in immediately, flats are a priority. Drove there yesterday at 1 (took a half day at work), tire sidewall was split by the time I got there, and dropped it off, they gave me a loaner and told me it would only be a few hours. They called me a few hours later and said that I had a bubble in another tire and that the insurance has to come out and look and approve more than one tire. They promise a 24 hour turn around. I am glad I have the insurance, but I guess I could see them wanting to check out wheels more than tires. It kind of is what it is with run flats right? They technically are not repairable and a bubble is a bubble. Cause should not even factor into it. I can see people trying to get new wheels because of curb rash, but checking out bad tires? Seems like a waste of time for the insurance approver.
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Its almost a shame that BMW put such a crappy tire like the Good Year Eagle LS2 on such a wonderful car, one would think they would have change oem tires by now. My guess is that they have some sort of long term commitment with the Good Year factory in Germnay.
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I would get it fixed ASAP, there is no magic number to how long you can drive on a run flat in a practical world, but BMW says 50
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:20 PM
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As little as you can...... short as you can..if you want any tire left at all
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Why is everyone here focused on the TIRE? What about the safety of the driver and all his passengers?

What happens if you need to swerve to avoid that secretary putting makeup on? Or the guy who pulled in front of me today and came to a dead stop, gutting across 3 lanes of traffic to get into the northbound HOV lane in Quincy? Prepared to pay your deductible (and maybe get cited) for being at fault? (Cause if you are driving on a flat tire, you are definitely at fault).

Say you don't hit anything, but you shred the tire and have to leave the car on Morrissey Blvd (or worse, Blue Hill Avenue) because you don't have a spare. Not driving directly to the dealership is just nuts IMHO.
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Good points. As noted I realized almost immediately that I needed to go straight to dealer and I did
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Its almost a shame that BMW put such a crappy tire like the Good Year Eagle LS2 on such a wonderful car, one would think they would have change oem tires by now. My guess is that they have some sort of long term commitment with the Good Year factory in Germnay.
I've got Pirelli P-Zero's on mine. Seems to be a new introduction for certain 2013 M Sport models?
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I've got Pirelli P-Zero's on mine. Seems to be a new introduction for certain 2013 M Sport models?
Man I hope mine has the Pirellis as well.

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Yeah they seem to work really well on my car. Haven't extensively compared to any other tires on the F10, but general consensus seems that the P-Zero's are the best option on this car.

I had the P-Zero (non RFT's) on my first W212 and they were way too harsh for that car (maybe the sporty character of the tire just didn't work on the floatier chassis on that car), whereas the less sporty Continentals on my second W212 were more fit to give a softer ride to that softer car.

I always wanted the P-Zero's though since they've always been such a sporty and "cool" tire to me. Seems they're well balanced on the F10 chassis.
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Man I hope mine has the Pirellis as well.

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Don't be too disappointed if the tires are are 19" LS2s. These are the only all-season RFTs available in the F10 245/40/19 size and your X-drive F10 will come with all season tires. The P-Zeros are summer tires.
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Don't be too disappointed if the tires are are 19" LS2s. These are the only all-season RFTs available in the F10 245/40/19 size and your X-drive F10 will come with all season tires. The P-Zeros are summer tires.
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haven't had this problem yet since I don't drive my car in the winter, but from what I understand ! if you change the size of the tire 245 40 19 to 245 45 19 this will give you enough side wall to absorb the impact pot holes
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After three days waiting for the third party insurance to approve replacement of two tires I picked up my car this Friday night and its been shaking between 20-70 all weekend. Feels like a bent rim on the rear. Very frustrated. Dealer should have caught this easily on a test drive. BMW gallery Norwood MA. Crappy QA. Why do I keep going there? Makes me want to buy a Lexus sometimes. These run flats absolutely SUCK. Frig the insurance. I just don't have time for this. Vent off.
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After three days waiting for the third party insurance to approve replacement of two tires I picked up my car this Friday night and its been shaking between 20-70 all weekend. Feels like a bent rim on the rear. Very frustrated. Dealer should have caught this easily on a test drive. BMW gallery Norwood MA. Crappy QA. Why do I keep going there? Makes me want to buy a Lexus sometimes. These run flats absolutely SUCK. Frig the insurance. I just don't have time for this. Vent off.
Glad they approved the replacement. Was it the BMW insurance or 3rd party, First Automotive or another company? So I assume you had a loaner for the days you had to wait for approval?

Sucks about the rim if they had caught it then insurance would have done everything now its another pain in the ass waiting another few days for approval. I know for sure now if any of this happens to my tires/rims after I get the car and insurance does cover it I am going to make the service guy drive in the car with me before I take it home. Unreal home some of these places operate.


EDIT: oops see you said 3rd party... what company is it?
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After three days waiting for the third party insurance to approve replacement of two tires I picked up my car this Friday night and its been shaking between 20-70 all weekend. Feels like a bent rim on the rear. Very frustrated. Dealer should have caught this easily on a test drive. BMW gallery Norwood MA. Crappy QA. Why do I keep going there? Makes me want to buy a Lexus sometimes. These run flats absolutely SUCK. Frig the insurance. I just don't have time for this. Vent off.
Get some non run flats and you'll be amazed at how they transform the ride of the car.
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