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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 03-03-2013, 11:07 PM
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i just turned 19 so do you think i listen to peoples advise?
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:31 AM
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some of you might not like this, but i think it would be an amazing idea and if i pull this off allot of people will be doing it.
Lol. No. Just stop it now. This is without question one of the stupidest 'mods' I have ever heard of.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:12 AM
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Doesn't he get HP points for all of the ebay M5 stuff on the car?
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:34 AM
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You should think about the fact that people may have modified a 6 cylinder exhaust in the past, and are trying to offer the advice on how it sounds.

BMW 6 cylinders just generally donít sound good when theyíre uncorked. Just look up any E46 M3 straight pipe video. Raspy.

If you donít want advice, go and learn the hard way like we all did. Figure out the wiring, welding, fitment, and reliability on your own, and when you have spent all that time and money with a result you arenít happy with, youíll wish you had listened to common sense and advice.
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:37 PM
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I think you should stop now cuz im sick of u... no M stuff on my car is off of ebay. its all OEM il take pics off all the badges to prove it to ur dumb ass. by the way this M **** on my car is worth more than you little prehistoric 540...

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Old 03-04-2013, 07:49 PM
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You should think about the fact that people may have modified a 6 cylinder exhaust in the past, and are trying to offer the advice on how it sounds.

BMW 6 cylinders just generally donít sound good when theyíre uncorked. Just look up any E46 M3 straight pipe video. Raspy.

If you donít want advice, go and learn the hard way like we all did. Figure out the wiring, welding, fitment, and reliability on your own, and when you have spent all that time and money with a result you arenít happy with, youíll wish you had listened to common sense and advice.

i understand what you are trying to say, but diff people have diff tastes. for example i might be diffrent from the rest of you guys.

To most of you guys this sounds nice. To me its sounds like a piece of sh*t v8 mustang and i cant stand that ****.



This to me sounds good. to you guys it may sound stupid but this is my taste.


Thank you guys for the advise.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:22 AM
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I put one of these on my E34 525i, and it sounded great actually. I brought it to euroworks in Minneapolis and got a lot of compliments. I didn't do any of the wiring so I can't help you there, but it shouldn't be too hard if you have basic electrical skills. I'm also going to be putting one on my 76 2002, and this weekend I'm going to be cutting off the Borla muffler on my E39 and leaving it open with just cats for awhile. I'm really surprised by all of these unsupportive people on this forum, especially because they always say that they're "helpful". I am also 19 so to everyone that automatically discredits me, but seriously guys.. be more mature. It's not your car, it's his and he can do whatever the f*** he wants to it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:29 AM
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I think you should stop now cuz im sick of u... no M stuff on my car is off of ebay. its all OEM il take pics off all the badges to prove it to ur dumb ass. by the way this M **** on my car is worth more than you little prehistoric 540...

Stop hattin bro.
Have you ever been called a spoiled brat?
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Have you ever been called a spoiled brat?
Nope never been called that. You know why? Because I work for my **** and pay my own bills. I'm not a little daddy's boy like your kids are... Hop off.

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Old 03-05-2013, 04:24 PM
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that 540i above sounds like a muscular V8 with a bit of German refinement.

That 530i 6 cylinder sounds like an early 90s Grand Prix that had a muffler rust out and fall off back in the winter of '98.

I think the ideal way to settle this is to simply make a poll, and let everyone else decide.

It's your car, do what you want, if you think it sounds good, go for it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 04:47 PM
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Alright thanks for your opinion. to me it sounds way more sporty than the v8 and hope my car turns out to sound like that.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:17 AM
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that 540i above sounds like a muscular V8 with a bit of German refinement.

That 530i 6 cylinder sounds like an early 90s Grand Prix that had a muffler rust out and fall off back in the winter of '98.

I think the ideal way to settle this is to simply make a poll, and let everyone else decide.

It's your car, do what you want, if you think it sounds good, go for it.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:45 AM
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Whats the big deal. Its his car and his choice. Doesn't matter if he is 19 years old or if he is 15. If he has the money and that is what he wants to do, let him go for it. No one is better than anyone on this forum; the intent of this forum is to share ideas and thoughts and get help WHEN NEEDED... If someone doesn't have help to give then don't give it. Everyone has different views and has their e39 for different reasons. One thing we all share in common is that we love the e39. Some criticism is ok, but bringing a person down over an exhaust is not really needed and there is no needed to knock each other back and forth.
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:00 PM
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I don't understand... Do u guys not get the fact that its adjustable... I just want it loud when it wide open but I'm not gonna ride it with wide open. I love how u 540 guys think 530s are turtles and 540s are rockets... No offense but the diff is like 50 HP... Not 200... So stop please.

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I always think of trading up to a 540. but i have too much stuff into my car to let it go. OEM Style 65s and OEM front M5 bumper and just intalled an OEM M5 rear bumper. Its not that big of a diff for me from a 530 to a 540 considering my car looks 10x better and is in better condition than any 540i i have seen for sale. I do plan on one day buying another e39 but its not going to be anything other than an M5 thats for sure. And who ever said the 0-60 time between 540 and 530 is 2 seconds... i never knew 540s broke into the 4s... its barly 1 seconds man lol. go do some research.
Guys, I'm not trying to get into the middle of anything, not interested in an arguing. However, I'd like to honorably present some facts before the board.

The 540i is heavily under-rated. I didn't quite believe all the hype about 540i's before until I checked out Dyno readings of many people. 530i's dyno right around what they are rated, while 540i's never dyno their rating. The weakest Dyno rating with a correction factor that I've seen from a 540i was well over 300hp. Secondly, a 530i does have decent power, but doesn't produce any power until high RPM's while a 540i produces tremendous power at very low RPM's.

What I'm getting at is that, if you took two bone stock cars, a 540i and 530i with professional race car drivers behind the wheel, the difference might not be huge, but it will be very noticeable.

However, if you took two regular drivers, the difference would be extreme. It takes a lot more skill and consistency to get a good 0-60mph on a 530i, its sensitive to shifts and has a narrow range of power. A 540i will get good times with much less effort. I'd be willing to bet that you would be hard-pressed to do a 8s 0-60 on your 530i. You need perfect shifts, redline shifts every time.

A 540i is also plagued by horrifically tall gearing. If you install a proper differential like a 3.15 or 3.46 on it, it would beat you so bad that the race would be over before you shifted into 2nd gear. A 540i is also incredibly easier to tune. It has a pretty bad engine from the factory, and some good intake/exhaust modifications make it much better while an M54 engine is already at its maximum for the most part.

What I'm getting at is that the 530i is the better car...its more refined, tuned, way more reliable and cheaper to maintain...etc. However, a 540i will run circles around it all day without much effort and if its even slightly modified, like a 3.15:1 rear end...which sells for $200 on ebay used, it would absolutely destroy you.

In comparison to a 540i, a 530i is a turtle. You've clearly never driven one. As I said before, the difference is not huge if they are driven by professionals, but the 540i is just so much easier to rack in good times, because all the power you need is on tap from idle. In REAL LIFE with regular drivers, the 0-60 difference is easily ~2seconds, you would NEVER get even a 7-8s 0-60mph on a 530i unless it was in perfect condition and driven by a pro with a manual. Plus with your extremely heavy wheels now, your 530i is MUCH slower further.

Nevertheless, the car looks great and the mod is interesting. When you're finished, you should make some video's of how it works. Cheers!

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Old 03-06-2013, 09:47 PM
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Ya il also do a 0-60 run for you guys cuz idk where your getting these numbers from. every single time iv times my 530 its been under 7 seconds. I dont expect you guys to believe it so just act like i never said that. but i will prove it to you guys when its done.
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Here is a 530i he didnt turn off dsc so that kinda killed it a little. but i timed it 3 times and got 6.7-6.9 every time on this one.




Here is a 530i 5 spd. and i timed it from 6.2-6.4


Here are 540s. i have not timed a single one under 6 seconds yet.







This one skip to 35 seconds


This one is actualy pretty fast. but its the only one that got into the 5s from all those videos.



540i is over rated talk all the numbers you want... here are the videos. time them and see.

not trying to say the 540 is slow just saying the gap isnt more than a second. stop talkin numbers and show me proof.

I dont know how we got to this point but honestly both cars are slow as sh*t by todays standards, im just trying to let you 540 guys who think you drive supercars know the truth. The cars there making these days are way faster than both of these cars. like the 535 f10 would **** on both e39 540 and 530 so we need to stop acting like our cars are fast.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:53 AM
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You can post ametuer youtube videos all you want of which you have no clue how modified or how beaten any of the cars are, thats not a reliable source. Get a tablet and install torquestats or dashcommand and let your OBD-2 time your 0-60. Videos are very inaccurate due to roll and angle and inconsistency of many other factors. Secondly, 540's are not slow by today's standards. They are still faster than 99% of road going cars in the U.S.A. And lastly, an F10 535i wouldn't win. It weighs tremendously more and its weaker. BMW's official spec is 5.7s and a 540i can easily beat a 5.7s 0-60.

Connect and use obd to time your 0-60 and 1/4mile. Then we'll see.

Its by no means a supercar or anything, but its under-rated and has huge potential for tuning.
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guys guys, we're all getting off target here...




































and regardless of who earns the money to pay for it, or whose car it is, the v6 sounds like crap with straight pipes
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the v6 =
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Im done with this thread. 540i drivers are like kobe bryant fans. only people who watch the nba will know what this means.
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wtf with these people driving 15 years old bitten V8 and thinking they are faster cars on the road



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wtf with these people driving 15 years old bitten V8 and thinking they are faster cars on the road



I f*ckin love you. Ur the only I6 guy who tells it like it is. For real a guy with 97 540 talkin sh*t hop off.

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guys guys, we're all getting off target here...







and regardless of who earns the money to pay for it, or whose car it is, the v6 sounds like crap with straight pipes
Not sure if you're misinformed or simply had a brain fart but BMWs do not use V6 engines in any of their cars. They instead use inline 6 engines.
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Hey Mike,

Oscar here, good to see you are continuing to add modifications to your ride making it more you. Your car is looking real good and don't pay any attention to the negative comments and don't even reply to them. In the end, it's your car and what makes you smile when you drive it, is all that matters.

Guys, lets really get back to his original post. Mike is a good kid and we are all BMW family, we should all be happy for Mike and encourage not flame. Help find a better product (if there is one) or another idea that would give him what he is looking for less $$$.

Just a side note...Porsche 911 has a similar setup on a 6 cyl and I don't think I have ever heard anyone flame it.

Keep the mods going Mike and good luck.
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