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E30 (1982 - 1993)
God's Chariot. The E30 was produced primarily from 1982 through 1991. The cabriolet was the one exception which was produced through 1993. |
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Oil in the Coolant
The morning my heater blew cold air. A couple weeks ago I replaced several coolant gaskets and hoses while flushing the coolant, so my first thought was that my heater core has perhaps kicked the bucket. Just to be safe I checked the coolant level. And though not low, the coolant is a milky brown. Oil in the coolant. Nuts. So what are common causes of this and where do I look first? PCV valve? Head Gaskets? Is it safe and not harmful to the car to continue driving with this bad antifreeze?
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It sound like a blown HG. Compression / leak down tests will confirm. Drive it if you must - very limited distance. The damage is done. You will need to get the oil residue out of the cooling system too. That will take a GOOD radiator shop. On the bright side you may have just moved a lot of sludge out of the heater core. Do the compression tests first - you might be lucky (don't hold your breath).
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Head gaskets are no problem though right? A good kit is around a $100 and its not too bad to replace. Or will there be more damage as a result that will cost me big?
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Well the head gasket is compromised. Is $1300 a reasonable price to have a shop perform the service? This is beyond my mechanical skill level. The $1300 would get all gaskets needed, and a machine shop would go over the head and make sure it's good to go. Any thoughts on my options here?
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I've not replaced a head gasket on my E30 though I did once on a Saab 96 V4 and my Grumman step van with a 6.2 GM diesel. I'm guessing that if you did it yourself and had the heads done while you were at it (only makes sense) your cost would be $600 or $700 at least so the $1300 figure doesn't seem too outlandish. It would be a big job to undertake, and if you're not confident to do it, as you pretty much said, could be dicey. I'd be tempted to do it myself. A savings of $600 would be nice.
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I'd suggest u might just have to bring it to a shop if you're not sure enough doing it yourself. It would cause more trouble if you force yourself doing it your own.
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you will also need some special tools like torque wrenches and spark plug tools etc, which if you dont already own will eat into that $600 "saving"
the cheapest solution would be to swap in another M20. much quicker and easier than doing a head gasket. surprising isnt it.
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Well, true enough, if you don't have the tools, there is that cost. Swapping in a new motor doesn't seem too cheap nor easy however.
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IMO go for the head and head gasket. If your engine is M10 it is quite easy with a manual. Hire or borrow tools you don't have. The biggest cost is having the head serviced which is a must. Have you checked pressures and leak-down rates yet?
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It's the M20 engine. No leak-down test, I'm not familiar with that. And the compression test reported close to 10-1 compression. So compression wasn't significantly lost. However a chemical test of the coolant reported significant levels of oil. And being that I don't have the oil cooler that is often responsible for oil in the coolant, head gasket is the probable culprit.
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Make sure it IS the head gasket !
They did the chemical test where they checked the coolant whilst running for combustion residue ? No water in the oil ? Does the head need to be rebuilt ? If so, ask the local performance shop what they ask for a rebuild with porting, cam the lot. Got a buddy who has pulled and replaced cylinder heads (preferably alloy ones) ?
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I can't be sure it's the head gasket, but the shop says they're 99% sure. All I could do was the compression test and crude analysis of how the engine was running. The combustion was good and it still ran like a champ. This gave me hope that maybe I caught the broken gasket before it could do any serious damage. I could be wrong, as could the shop.
I thought about asking them to port the head, to my knowledge I won't need a new head. But I figure if they're going to be machining it anyway, might as well ask them to port it right? Why not? These heads are fine to port right? |
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the only easier BMW engine is the M40. unplug the ECU and throttle cable, disconnect fuel lines and driveshaft and undo the mounts and out she comes. i have done it in an afternoon from functioning car to functioning car. would take a day if its your first time.
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