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Old 03-08-2013, 10:33 AM
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JB4 Installation

Today i went to a car shop that i have been to several times in regards to previous cars that i had, and they are a legit shop and does good work. Even though i have read installing the jb4 can be a DIY, i wanted to make sure someone that was more inclined with cars to do my installation. the guy told me that it would cost roughly 300.00 dollars to install and that it was not a 15-30 min installation that was stated on the website. He also stated that based on what he saw in instructions that i would need additional (custom) connectors that was not included in the package that i received from burger tuning. Anyone ever heard of needed additional connectors. Although i want the jb4 installed by someone that knows what they are doing, 300.00 does sound pretty steep for the installation in my opinion. Any thoughts, opinions, ideas would be appreciated!
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:00 AM
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Today i went to a car shop that i have been to several times in regards to previous cars that i had, and they are a legit shop and does good work. Even though i have read installing the jb4 can be a DIY, i wanted to make sure someone that was more inclined with cars to do my installation. the guy told me that it would cost roughly 300.00 dollars to install and that it was not a 15-30 min installation that was stated on the website. He also stated that based on what he saw in instructions that i would need additional (custom) connectors that was not included in the package that i received from burger tuning. Anyone ever heard of needed additional connectors. Although i want the jb4 installed by someone that knows what they are doing, 300.00 does sound pretty steep for the installation in my opinion. Any thoughts, opinions, ideas would be appreciated!
they're ripping you off.
i've installed for friends in 20 minutes. unless you bought a jb thats missing parts, there is nothing to add.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:05 AM
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Took me about 45 minutes the first time, being very very careful...its down to 20 or so after two removal/installs. Be sure to view both the vid & PDF. Helps big time to have your computer with the script & pictures to be sure you have the plugs aligned correctly. Plugs are also marked with arrows & color coded to help out.

Lots of units installed in Jersey, see if you can get someone to help you. Also you did buy the plug & play unit about $479, correct?
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I'd have laughed and walked out, and I don't even feel comfortable doing it. For an extra 300 having already spent it. I bet I could figure it out before monday when I really needed the car

+ The guys on here will help if you get stuck and upload pics of where your stuck at.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:22 PM
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what is a JB?
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what is a JB?
James Brown. CBS sports. He does NFL Sunday mornings on CBS
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:21 PM
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what is a JB?
Its on a need to know basis & with a 325 you don't need to know Joking, its a device that plugs into the ECU on a 335 to change the engines performance parameters. Competitors include COBB, Dinan, Vishnu & a few others.

http://www.burgertuning.com/jb4_pnp_...nce_tuner.html
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:52 PM
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bear-avhistory, yea i bought the plug&play, i bought the special they had with the stage 3 jb4 and DCI. Does anyone know of any shops in jersey that know what they are doing and won't try to rape me for installation charges.
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Post here to see if you can get someone local to help. http://www.n54tech.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3
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Well if I wasn't going to do the install i'd have just bought a cobb
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:50 PM
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one way or another i am going to get it installed, looks like the COBB is more simplistic and easier but i still think the JB4 will be better.
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one way or another i am going to get it installed, looks like the COBB is more simplistic and easier but i still think the JB4 will be better.
Yeah Cobb was a breeze and its loads of fun. If I was you and had the jb4 sitting in-front of me I think I'd be tempted to try it myself. Just go slow and stop if you get lost and double check with the boys here It's the weekend you've got time!

If your lucky you're still looking at 100-250 in install costs, you might find everyone says 300+
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:08 AM
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I'm in northern VA until this evening, anyone know of any shop that may be open to take car to and get jb4 installed???
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:16 AM
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Today i went to a car shop that i have been to several times in regards to previous cars that i had, and they are a legit shop and does good work. Even though i have read installing the jb4 can be a DIY, i wanted to make sure someone that was more inclined with cars to do my installation. the guy told me that it would cost roughly 300.00 dollars to install and that it was not a 15-30 min installation that was stated on the website. He also stated that based on what he saw in instructions that i would need additional (custom) connectors that was not included in the package that i received from burger tuning. Anyone ever heard of needed additional connectors. Although i want the jb4 installed by someone that knows what they are doing, 300.00 does sound pretty steep for the installation in my opinion. Any thoughts, opinions, ideas would be appreciated!

Evidently, they like making money and fibbin's not a problem. Deep six those Bozos.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:17 AM
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I'm in northern VA until this evening, anyone know of any shop that may be open to take car to and get jb4 installed???

DIY isn't difficult at all and if you're going to mod, getting to know your car's a very good thing.

Hey, take the plunge.....you'll be glad you did!
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I only know of a couple in VA that I'd give a try too.
Ptuning
9432 Center Point Lane
Manassas, VA 20110

Moore Auto
9776 Fairfax Blvd Fairfax, Va. 22031

AP (might be expensive for lesser quality)
25358 Pleasant Valley Road
Suite 125
Chantilly, VA 20152

most probably closed on sunday.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:58 AM
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@superterp thanks for the recommendations but they all are closed today, I suppose I will try to find another shop in jersey this week or maybe get one of my friends to help me experiment and try it out, hope all goes well if I attempt to do it, haha
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If you are unsure stop & ask. Very good pictures in the BMS instructions. Look at the wire colors against the pics to be sure you have the right plugs then use the arrows on the plugs to align them. I found the only hard part was opening the locks on the connectors. You need an awl or very small flat blade screw driver, there are pictures of this.
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If you are unsure stop & ask. Very good pictures in the BMS instructions. Look at the wire colors against the pics to be sure you have the right plugs then use the arrows on the plugs to align them. I found the only hard part was opening the locks on the connectors. You need an awl or very small flat blade screw driver, there are pictures of this.
Thats what I said! lol had he started Friday night and hit a wall he could have stopped taken pictures for you guys to look at, gotten some feedback and continued.

Going in for Dinan FMIC and Stage 3 suspension next week or the week after (I calculated it all out and with the sale going on I'm only saving about 600 bucks between the two compared to buying and letting an indy do it)

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The JB4 install can be hairy if you don't pay attention to the connector set up in the video and pdf like all are saying. It comes with one of the connectors hooked up to another connector that does not go together when installed (or at least mine did). YOU NEED TO HAVE 4 SEPARATE Connectors, not 3 so make sure you do. The car will throw all kinds of lights if you hook up the wrong small connectors to the wrong harnesses, run bad, and eventually not start (HEART ATTACK!). Just keep swithing the small connectors and look at the pdf and video if this happens. NOTE: The colored wires on the JB4 harness may NOT match up to the video and pdf examples! Pay attention to the NUMBER of wires on the small harnesses and where they go. After you get it, the car fires right up and you are in control!

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Today i went to a car shop that i have been to several times in regards to previous cars that i had, and they are a legit shop and does good work. Even though i have read installing the jb4 can be a DIY, i wanted to make sure someone that was more inclined with cars to do my installation. the guy told me that it would cost roughly 300.00 dollars to install and that it was not a 15-30 min installation that was stated on the website. He also stated that based on what he saw in instructions that i would need additional (custom) connectors that was not included in the package that i received from burger tuning. Anyone ever heard of needed additional connectors. Although i want the jb4 installed by someone that knows what they are doing, 300.00 does sound pretty steep for the installation in my opinion. Any thoughts, opinions, ideas would be appreciated!
Okay here:

1 i installed my jb4 about 6 hours ago.
2 first time ive installed one, or seen one installed in real life
3 i only referenced the video, i didnt even use the pdf
4 it took me 45 mins and it only took that long because i had to squeeze in between wires and i put the sliding clip on the large connector in backwards and it took me 15 mins to realize it
5 i have no specific mechanical ability with cars, all i can do is an oil change for the most part

6 you can do it, if something isnt fitting, backtrack a step or two and make sure youre doing it correctly.

good luck, you got it


EDIT: as stated above some of the connectors on the video arent the same colors as the unit you probably have. to make things simpler, realize that with the unit you have, the grey connects to the stock grey connector, white to stock white, and blacks to stock blacks. this will make sense once youre doing it.

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