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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 03-09-2013, 04:52 PM
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i'm looking to purchase this vehicle ... what do you guys think

4 Door
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Old 03-09-2013, 05:48 PM
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Depends on the price.

Maintenance history?

Warranty?
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:09 PM
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Depends on the price.

Maintenance history?

Warranty?
@schpenxel ... I'm kinda new to BMW world and I'd like to know what am I looking for and what is the norm for a BMW maintenance history . As far as the warranty I don't have any info on that as yet .. pretty much I found this today and the car dealer was closed
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:25 PM
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Research the coolant pipe issue that the 4.4 liter engine was prone to have. Very costly repair that hit a lot of these cars around the 100k mile range. There is lots of information out there about it.

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Old 03-09-2013, 07:30 PM
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:48 PM
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Great color combo. The things to look out for are mostly leaks, valve cover gaskets, upper timing cover (top front of the engine), alternator bracket gasket (bottom of the engine is where you will see the leak), as other have said the coolant pipe that runs under the intake manifold also leaks. Depending on road conditions in your area it could need control arm bushings replaced. If you buy it definitely replace the the fluids (yes, all of them, coolant, brake, oil, transmission, everything you can get replaced) to give yourself peace of mind going forward.
First things first, once you are in the car and it's started, hit the "menu" button on the center console, then push down on the iDrive controller, go to "info sources" then "service information" and see if there are any RED or YELLOW items.
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:22 PM
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Research the coolant pipe issue that the 4.4 liter engine was prone to have. Very costly repair that hit a lot of these cars around the 100k mile range. There is lots of information out there about it.

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Great color combo. The things to look out for are mostly leaks, valve cover gaskets, upper timing cover (top front of the engine), alternator bracket gasket (bottom of the engine is where you will see the leak), as other have said the coolant pipe that runs under the intake manifold also leaks. Depending on road conditions in your area it could need control arm bushings replaced. If you buy it definitely replace the the fluids (yes, all of them, coolant, brake, oil, transmission, everything you can get replaced) to give yourself peace of mind going forward.
First things first, once you are in the car and it's started, hit the "menu" button on the center console, then push down on the iDrive controller, go to "info sources" then "service information" and see if there are any RED or YELLOW items.
thanks guys for the advice so far, it is much appreciated . i'll be sure to keep those in mind ...
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:23 PM
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They can be finicky vehicles that are expensive to maintain, even more so if you don't do the work yourself.

My 2004 545i has over 188K miles on it now, so they CAN make it that far, but keep in mind I've spent over $2K in the last few months just in parts for different parts
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:54 PM
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Get the VIN number and pop it into Google to see how long it's been for sale.

Also, get a Carfax to see where the car has lived.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:30 PM
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Let me put a little more detail out there:

Most of the major issues have been covered:
  • it's only a matter of time before there are oil leaks (if there aren't already). So, if oil leaks are a big deal to you, it can get expensive to stop them
  • Alternator oil seal always goes out sooner or later
  • Google E60 545i coolant pipe--that's another common point of faiure
  • Read through the 545i transmission thread at the top of this forum--transmission/mechatronic/solenoid issues aren't uncommon. BMW's recommendation is always to replace the whole assembly, which is like $6K just for parts, but there are other options here
  • All of the electronics can be nice, but are also a complete pain to troubleshoot when there are issues. Just about everything is electronically controlled
  • Everything is plastic. I'm sure it's cheaper/lighter to make them that way, but it also leads to a brittle mess once the cars get a little age on them. Even the ends of the radiator hoses are plastic
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:24 PM
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Get the VIN number and pop it into Google to see how long it's been for sale.

Also, get a Carfax to see where the car has lived.
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Let me put a little more detail out there:

Most of the major issues have been covered:
  • it's only a matter of time before there are oil leaks (if there aren't already). So, if oil leaks are a big deal to you, it can get expensive to stop them
  • Alternator oil seal always goes out sooner or later
  • Google E60 545i coolant pipe--that's another common point of faiure
  • Read through the 545i transmission thread at the top of this forum--transmission/mechatronic/solenoid issues aren't uncommon. BMW's recommendation is always to replace the whole assembly, which is like $6K just for parts, but there are other options here
  • All of the electronics can be nice, but are also a complete pain to troubleshoot when there are issues. Just about everything is electronically controlled
  • Everything is plastic. I'm sure it's cheaper/lighter to make them that way, but it also leads to a brittle mess once the cars get a little age on them. Even the ends of the radiator hoses are plastic
thanks again for all the advice, I truly appreciate it ... Tomorrow monday I'll be sure to get somewhere with this BMW (hopefully) as the dealer was closed for the weekend. I hope to get all of these things checked quickly as I'm in the military and found this listing about a 1 1/2 hrs away from my base. I'm hoping all goes well.
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:10 PM
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Don't be too quick to pull the trigger is my only other advice
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:47 PM
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I just got one 6 months ago and I love it! The car is like a rocket ship! Make sure you get a warranty because repairs are frequent and pricy! And nice color combo by the way
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:59 PM
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alot of cars got water damaged from the new york floods, would not be surprised if this one had damage...
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:36 PM
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Ask if all the recalls have been taken care of.. passenger seat bealt air bag, battery cable, vacume pump hose to brake booster, also make them take off the bottom cover and look underneath the car ,,, Look for leaks on the oil pan,, tranny pan.. alternator bracket, and ARS tortion mechanisum,,, Under the hood look for oil leaks on timming covers, valve covers. also ask if all the tranny updates are the latest version,,,, these are great cars,, if u take good care of it .. itwill take care of u in return.. good luck on your purchase.. Also verry important,, have them take out the spare tire.. and the foam cover and make sure the electronic componants are dry.. They will need to b relocated evenn if they are dry,,,,, also have them check the sun roof drains to ensure they drain (verry important thing...)
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:07 AM
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I paid $15k for my 2006 550i (base) with 82k on the clock....price seems reasonable, plus that color combo is BAD!
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:26 AM
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I have the same color combo. It is, indeed, bad
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:08 PM
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I'm jealous of that color combo as well Just bought my 545i 3 weeks ago (BLK/BLK): 2005 with 78K miles and all maintenance, history records, clean autocheck and to Schpenxel's point, most of the major items like coolant pipe and seals (multiple) has already been changed out. I paid $14K private party if you want price reference points.
My recommendation is take it to Indy shop to check over/inspect ~$100 worth of "insurance"... Not saying they'll find everything but they will at least notice some of the major issues if there are any, as long as the shop is good and responsible.

Also I would DEFINITELY pay attention to transmission... There are lots of issues with that ZF box reported here and over the web. Check for that dreaded 35-40mph surging issue and in my case, a weird 1st->2nd gear slipping issue. In my case I reset the transmission and it's shifting better now but pay attention, most people are reporting $7K transmission rebuilds at dealer and around $4-5K for Indys.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:30 AM
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Valve seals and that color combo is the best.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:07 PM
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alot of cars got water damaged from the new york floods, would not be surprised if this one had damage...
thanks but i'm not in NY ... i'm down south at them moment
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:08 PM
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I paid $15k for my 2006 550i (base) with 82k on the clock....price seems reasonable, plus that color combo is BAD!
well as the pic shows it's about the same and this BMW has 78k miles on it ...
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:08 PM
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of course make sure you run autocheck
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:23 PM
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Don't be too quick to pull the trigger is my only other advice
thanks ... and no i'm not ... as I just found this about a day now which is a 2007 550i but the dealer I find not to be too 'interested', seems like I have to be pushing him to get this sale done. I was originally looking for a 550i with at least a year of 2005 with 90k miles or less which this 550i has

from the info that I've been given about this is as follows:

- 2007
- 550i
- 70K miles
- asking price is $16,500

did an appraisal on this 550i and it's worth $24,850

spoke with the dealer and told him i'm interested in it and i'd make a trip to Fl to work out the details but what I find odd like I said above is he doesn't seem too 'interested' ... I have to call him 3-4 times to get info. Maybe it's me but that seemed kind of odd
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:09 AM
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Nice. I believe the 550 cleaned up some of the issues left behind from the 545. I text drove 3 545 and all 3 had leaks. The fourth one I had squeduled I turned around, went and picked up my 530xi. Didn't even give it the benefit of the doubt
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:31 AM
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Yeah 550 did (supposedly) clean up some of the issues, oil leaks are still pretty common though as far as I know. I read they added an oil cooler that connects where the "alternator seal" is on the 545's, so that supposedly helps there

Coolant pipe is also redesigned (supposedly
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